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  • Geohot Responds to Sony's Legal Motion

    Yesterday, we reported on leaked court documents, filed by Sony's lawyers against Geohot (George Hotz) and fail0verflow. Today, further legal docs, regarding the case, have surfaced on the net. This time around, we get to see Geohot's legal response to Sony's recent accusations. These documents, which were filed by Mr. Hotz's attorney today, give us a first look on his defense.
    Attachment 654

    Download: Hotz Legal Response.rar (1.66 MB)

    Geohot's attorney describes many flaws in Sony's original legal motion, and goes on to detail them. He pokes holes in everything from Geohot's alleged relationship with team fail0verflow, all the way to Sony's assertion that California holds jurisdiction over the case. Based on these recent docs, it seems like Sony will have a formidable foe in Geohot and his lawyer.

    Originally Posted by Matt Turner
    For anyone interested in who his attorney is; check it out http://www.ettorneyatlaw.com/

    He won a big case a while ago against the MPAA and RIAA.
    Also surfacing today, was a large collection of previously unreleased documents, recently filed by Sony's lawyers. In these docs, Sony cites such websites as PSX-Scene, PS3News, Slashdot, Twitter, and more, as evidence against Geohot. Many of you may remember this tactic from the original jailbreak cases back in September.

    Download: Sony Legal Docs 1-12-11.zip (6.66 MB)

    UPDATE:

    Sony failed in attempts to get a restraining order on Geohot, to quote @ Geohots Blog: “ As of 2:00 PM EST, 1/14/2011, I am not subject to any TROs“


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    Comments 48 Comments
    1. Darkman-PSG's Avatar
      Darkman-PSG -
      Geohot is legend!

      But Sony is kind of lame for doing this!

      Its not like he broke into Sony's main hq
    1. House Santana's Avatar
      House Santana -
      SO OWNED! The dude has rights and Sony is trying to rape his rights. Not cool Sony, not cool.
    1. One2thr456svn's Avatar
      One2thr456svn -
      Stand Tall Geohot, Stand Tall.
    1. kingbooforums's Avatar
      kingbooforums -
      I don't side with anyone.


      But seriously. Geohot should have seen this coming. But sony are just full of whiney fagots.
    1. nightrider9's Avatar
      nightrider9 -
      LOL i read it and wow. everything sony done geohot said shut up loool and if he makes a living out of computers then thats like saying to sony take out all the products u sell and make money. it just dont make sense. suck out sony lol
    1. TheReaper's Avatar
      TheReaper -
      nice response. that was a shit move on part of sony to make the hearing the day after they gave him the court papers
    1. MadnessImport's Avatar
      MadnessImport -
      This makes DA look more Godly

      STAY IN SECRETE!!!!!! and we all win
    1. fusion13's Avatar
      fusion13 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Blunts-LLA View Post
      All I Got To Say Is WoW!
      Same here dude, I though these guys were toast. I guess they got some fight in them.
    1. itsevilbert-PSG's Avatar
      itsevilbert-PSG -
      The (il)legal actions by Sony are just a delay tactic. To slow progress right down, even if it slows the progress of having OtherOS and Homebrew running on a PS3 by 6 months to a year they will have considered it money well spent. Fear and intimidation.

      There are coders who will wait for this to blow over before considering trying to create bafflingly amazingly complex projects for the PS3.
    1. Chad Conn's Avatar
      Chad Conn -
      @itsevilbert I could not have said it better. Fear of lawsuit will stop some people from developing homebrew software.
    1. MadnessImport's Avatar
      MadnessImport -
      Quote Originally Posted by Chad Conn View Post
      @itsevilbert I could not have said it better. Fear of lawsuit will stop some people from developing homebrew software.
      Or add fuel to the flame! a Pure Dev would love to captured for doing what he/she loves best i say
    1. One2thr456svn's Avatar
      One2thr456svn -
      Look at the facts people were jailbreaking the systems B4 the keys were out, B4 the fail0verfl0w meeting in Germany. and for months you could google a PS3 title and place megaupload or fileserve behind it and BAM links to DL it straight to you PC....Give it up $ony

      "SONY HAS FAILED TO DEMONSTRATE THAT A TRO WILL PREVENT IRREPERABLE HARM SINCE A BASIS FOR ITS CLAIMS IS THAT THE IRREPERABLE HARM SOUGHT TO BE ENJOINED HAS ALREADY BEEN SUFFERRED"
    1. kingbooforums's Avatar
      kingbooforums -
      did anyone even remember with the master key it can be signed so sony cannot detect fake from real?....sigh.
    1. genmaken's Avatar
      genmaken -
      Quote Originally Posted by kingbooforums View Post
      did anyone even remember with the master key it can be signed so sony cannot detect fake from real?....sigh.
      The current problem is that supposedly without even connecting to the psn store that your system still uploads a file to sony. Thus showing if you are using loader programs, etc. Signing doesnt mean it wont show programs that do not exist normally or should not be present anymore on your system.
    1. ymb4-PSG's Avatar
      ymb4-PSG -
      Quote Originally Posted by itsevilbert View Post
      The (il)legal actions by Sony are just a delay tactic. To slow progress right down, even if it slows the progress of having OtherOS and Homebrew running on a PS3 by 6 months to a year they will have considered it money well spent. Fear and intimidation.

      There are coders who will wait for this to blow over before considering trying to create bafflingly amazingly complex projects for the PS3.
      They can hardly slow progress at this point the scare tactic might work on people developing backup manager but certainly not for legit homebrew or even cfw it's to late for that if anything i think they're trying to set an example for future systems.
    1. itsevilbert-PSG's Avatar
      itsevilbert-PSG -
      Quote Originally Posted by kingbooforums View Post
      did anyone even remember with the master key it can be signed so sony cannot detect fake from real?....sigh.
      They may well be able to tell real from fake. Just because something has been signed does not mean that it was authorized by Sony, or has not been patched.

      If everytime something was signed in the secure room at Sony HQ checksums were kept as part of the Audit trail, then Sony could issue a white/green list. Only allow programs with good hashes to execute. For authorization to the PSN, this could be made part of the authentication requirements for Access.

      But a workaround like the above can be bypassed since the chain of trust has it's first link broken, which can't be fixed. Security on the PS3 is like trying to hide fish in a clear glass tank, they may be obsecured for a while, but eventually all will be revealed.
    1. Matt Turner's Avatar
      Matt Turner -
      For anyone interested in who is attorney his; check it out http://www.ettorneyatlaw.com/

      He won a big case a while ago against the MPAA and RIAA.

      I have renowned faith in this after reading those documents.
    1. siscan's Avatar
      siscan -
      im not sure if sony knows this because there in japan but new jersey and california are at oppisite ends of the us
    1. gsharpshooter80's Avatar
      gsharpshooter80 -
      OMFG Geohot said he doesn't have a psn account !!!!! I was thinking yesterday he deff has psn so it might be a little more difficult to explain towards you accepting the agreement on psn !! This just made Geohot a lot more harder to bring down for Sony HAHAHA... AS ALWAYS **** YOU SONY, GEOHOT BRING THE COMMUNITY BACK THE TROPHY CUZ UR THE MAN ;-)

      WOw yes yes yes that's right he also did lock his twitter account or disabled or so during summer because everyone was asking for blackra1n to come out or when the next hack for iPhone would come out and was pissed off that people kept asking him about ps3 other os back and what not and went under for a while heh love how all this is working to his victory !! And yea its true he never made a paypal account for donations maybe for iPhone but not for ps3 (Sony is full of shit on that comment because they probably are thinking of his iPhone hacks lool... Sony Sony Sony.. Poor Sony)
    1. Snow566's Avatar
      Snow566 -
      Read through the response, that lawyer is on point, he's gonna tear sony up lol
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