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  • Geohot Petitions for Protective Order – SoftLayer Technologies Files For Motion To Quash Subpoena

    Two new developments popped up today, regarding the geohot vs Sony legal battle. Geohot has grown tired of the fact that Sony has free reign over his seized hard drives. He is petitioning the courts for a Protective Order over the data that Sony accesses on his drives. For those of you that don't know what a protective order is, it is "an order that prevents the disclosure of sensitive information except to certain individuals under certain conditions."


    The other development arising today, is in regards to the subpoena which Sony filed against PSX-Scene.com's web host, SoftLayer Technologies, which we first reported on here. Sony is attempting to acquire server logs from SkyLayer, which contain IP addresses and logins regarding to geohot, which they can use to further fuel their case. The Dallas based server company isn't freely handing over the information and is objecting to Sony's subpoena. The company has recently filed a motion to quash the electronic giant's subpoena.


    GEORGE HOTZ’S MOTION FOR PROTECTIVE ORDER
    Now Comes Defendant George Hotz, by and through counsel, and moves this Court for Protective Order pursuant to Federal Rules of Civil Procedure Rule 26(c) and FRCP 26(b)(2)(c), seeking to protect Defendant George Hotz from Plaintiff Sony Computer Entertainment LLC‟s (“SCEA”) overbroad jurisdictional discovery requests, which are for the purpose of annoyance, embarrassment, oppression, and are an undue burden and undue expense on Defendant. Please note that this Motion is in addition to the Joint Protective Order, which is currently being drafted with Plaintiff’s counsel.

    PRELIMINARY STATEMENT
    Mr. Hotz is a 21-year-old individual, who resides in New Jersey and who has not consented to the jurisdiction of this Court. Despite the fact that SCEA has filed this action and represented that this matter belongs in the Northern District of California, SCEA now attempts to engage in a jurisdictional fishing expedition as a means to utilize jurisdictional discovery to achieve other ends. Although the Court has limited discovery to jurisdictional issues, SCEA has demanded overly burdensome and expensive discovery from Plaintiffs that bears little, if any, relevance to the issues at hand.

    The Defendant has shown good cause for the protective order sought herein, as the discovery SCEA seeks is harassing, irrelevant, burdensome, expensive, and intrusive. In addition, the confidential information sought to be protected could cause Defendant irreparable harm if mishandled or exposed.

    Mr. Hotz is not seeking to withhold information from Plaintiff. Instead, Mr. Hotz seeks only to (1) protect the information he is willingly providing by directing that the copy of his hard drive be created as-is and unaltered, and (2) relieve the undue burden and expense of appearing in this forum for a deposition where Mr. Hotz will gladly offer the same information through written deposition. Mr. Hotzhas been extremely accommodating to SCEA’s demanding requests– being responsive to questions and inquiries at all hours of the day and night, providing his personal hard drive with commercial, confidential, and valuable information so that SCEA can determine that nothing pertaining to jurisdiction resides on such drive, turning over his Playstation Computer, and remaining accessible despite the fact that he is not in the forum.

    Mr. Hotz files this Motion for a Protective Order to limit the issues at hand to the matters of jurisdiction, and to limit such discovery to less burdensome means. The protection Defendant seeks would prevent irreparable harm and undue burden on Defendant, while still granting SCEA the information it seeks to discover, without any burden.
    Hosting Company Softlayer Technologies Objects to Sony Subpoenas

    The web host to a PlayStation online forum moved Thursday to quash a subpoena connected to Sony’s lawsuit against George Hotz, the man who released the first full-fledged PlayStation 3 hack.

    SoftLayer Technologies, which counts psx-scene.com among its hosted sites, is objecting to a records demand seeking server logs and other information related to site-user Hotz. Sony is suing the 21-year-old New Jersey man on charges that he breached the Digital Millennium Copyright Act by publishing an encryption key and software tools in January that allow PlayStation 3 owners to gain complete control of their consoles.

    Dallas-based SoftLayer is the only company so far to object to subpoenas in the hotly contested Hotz case. The judge has signed off on Sony subpoenas to Twitter, YouTube, Google and PayPal as part of the console-maker’s scorched-earth litigation tactics to win an unspecified amount of monetary damages from Hotz.

    Thursday’s legal tussle surrounds a SoftLayer subpoena approved by Magistrate Judge Joseph Spero of San Francisco two weeks ago. It demands “documents reproducing all server logs, IP address logs, account information, account access records, and application or registration forms” (.pdf) connected to Hotz’s psx-scene.com account.

    Sony wants those logs, and a record of all of his postings, to determine whether Hotz had logged in from the San Francisco area while trumpeting or posting his hack.

    That data is at the center of a jurisdictional argument whether Sony must sue Hotz in his home state of New Jersey rather than in San Francisco, where Sony would prefer.

    SoftLayer objects to the subpoena on grounds that, among other things, it requires “disclosure of protected matter” (.pdf).

    No hearing date has been set.

    The DMCA prohibits the trafficking of so-called “circumvention devices” designed to crack copy-protection schemes. Hotz’s hack provides PlayStation 3 owners the ability to run pirated and home-brewed software or alternative operating systems like Linux. Performing a similar hack on a mobile phone is not unlawful.


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    Comments 36 Comments
    1. FernandoLuis's Avatar
      FernandoLuis -
      **** you sony,stop treating your customers like ****
    1. KatyPerry's Avatar
      KatyPerry -
      Sony Sony Sony

      Megaupload Mirror:

      http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WDQKLEJD
    1. Greg0u812's Avatar
      Greg0u812 -
      Very cool.
      I hope this works for him.
    1. Turkish-PSG's Avatar
      Turkish-PSG -
      The PS3 community sincerely hopes geohots defeat and is wishing him many years in prison.

      Karma is a b!tch, now Sony also got access to his paypal, thats what you get when you try to act like a hero giving interviews, thinking you're a rockstar. Geo Epic Fail
    1. David9602's Avatar
      David9602 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
      The PS3 community sincerely hopes geohots defeat and is wishing him many years in prison.
      he does deserve it they act like sonys bad for not letting them steal money from them and **** up multi player games. its like saying it would be ok to murder someone because a small group of people didnt like someone and getting pissed that they got life in prison wtf?? grow the **** up
    1. Turkish-PSG's Avatar
      Turkish-PSG -
      Quote Originally Posted by David9602 View Post
      he does deserve it they act like sonys bad for not letting them steal money from them and **** up multi player games. its like saying it would be ok to murder someone because a small group of people didnt like someone and getting pissed that they got life in prison wtf?? grow the **** up
      Whats even funnier is graf coco's moto: "if u wanna stop me then kill me" LOL is this some kind of battlefield? They really think they're freedom fighters and important people.

      And then his blackmailing: "do not raid my a$$ or I will release teh HV biblezzz"


      Coming from the psp scene, I've never witnessed such attention wh0ring, god damn!
    1. Dash_2's Avatar
      Dash_2 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
      Whats even funnier is graf coco's moto: "if u wanna stop me then kill me" LOL is this some kind of battlefield? They really think they're freedom fighters and important people.

      And then his blackmailing: "do not raid my a$$ or I will release teh HV biblezzz"


      Coming from the psp scene, I've never witnessed such attention wh0ring, god damn!

      personally i think youre the biggest attention wh0re on this site
    1. jon's Avatar
      jon -
      Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
      Whats even funnier is graf coco's moto: "if u wanna stop me then kill me" LOL is this some kind of battlefield? They really think they're freedom fighters and important people.

      And then his blackmailing: "do not raid my a$$ or I will release teh HV biblezzz"


      Coming from the psp scene, I've never witnessed such attention wh0ring, god damn!

      You sound like that bitter person who didn't get his jailbreak on time from geohot, but I'm sure you've used his tools some where down the line. So much talk, but you pirate? Please dude, check your ***** and hang yourself, because your clearly confusion on what to say or who to defend. If that's the case, don't come on this site and smash a person who pushed and helped get you those games on your system.
    1. Turkish-PSG's Avatar
      Turkish-PSG -
      Quote Originally Posted by jon View Post
      You sound like that bitter person who didn't get his jailbreak on time from geohot, but I'm sure you've used his tools some where down the line. So much talk, but you pirate? Please dude, check your ***** and hang yourself, because your clearly confusion on what to say or who to defend. If that's the case, don't come on this site and smash a person who pushed and helped get you those games on your system.
      No son he's not the second coming of jesus. I was playing my emulators on PS3 with JB dongle since october LOOOOOOOOONG before geohot appeared. You're acting like he is the one that made hacking on PS3 possible lmao.

      You're giving him too much credit, where is your love for FailoverFlow? They were honest, they cared for Linux. They came, they saw, they hacked and got the f*ck out. They weren't attention wh0ring like geohot and graf_choco.

      Word is geohot is gonna spend time in prison, Sony already got access to his hard drives and paypal account. Its only a matter of time.
    1. cboushell-PSG's Avatar
      cboushell-PSG -
      Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
      No son he's not the second coming of jesus. I was playing my emulators on PS3 with JB dongle since october LOOOOOOOOONG before geohot appeared. You're acting like he is the one that made hacking on PS3 possible lmao.

      You're giving him too much credit, where is your love for FailoverFlow? They were honest, they cared for Linux. They came, they saw, they hacked and got the f*ck out. They weren't attention wh0ring like geohot and graf_choco.

      Word is geohot is gonna spend time in prison, Sony already got access to his hard drives and paypal account. Its only a matter of time.


      You fu(king ****** its a CIVIL CASE, there is ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE OF JAIL TIME IN A CIVIL CASE! Do you just start to talk before thinking? Most likely you are just totally ignorant, and it shows when you make statements like this.
    1. ch13696's Avatar
      ch13696 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
      No son he's not the second coming of jesus. I was playing my emulators on PS3 with JB dongle since october LOOOOOOOOONG before geohot appeared. You're acting like he is the one that made hacking on PS3 possible lmao.

      You're giving him too much credit, where is your love for FailoverFlow? They were honest, they cared for Linux. They came, they saw, they hacked and got the f*ck out. They weren't attention wh0ring like geohot and graf_choco.

      Word is geohot is gonna spend time in prison, Sony already got access to his hard drives and paypal account. Its only a matter of time.
      Geohot being the "attention wh0re" is putting him in the right direction. If Geohot doesn't step up and tell people how it actually is, then Sony will continue to brainwash people into thinking that what Geohot is doing is hurting the developers and community. When really, it isn't.
    1. Thorn's Avatar
      Thorn -
      i hope geohot and psx-scene get the protective order granted
    1. jon's Avatar
      jon -
      Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
      No son he's not the second coming of jesus. I was playing my emulators on PS3 with JB dongle since october LOOOOOOOOONG before geohot appeared. You're acting like he is the one that made hacking on PS3 possible lmao.

      You're giving him too much credit, where is your love for FailoverFlow? They were honest, they cared for Linux. They came, they saw, they hacked and got the f*ck out. They weren't attention wh0ring like geohot and graf_choco.

      Word is geohot is gonna spend time in prison, Sony already got access to his hard drives and paypal account. Its only a matter of time.
      First off, I'm not your son. Second, yes, failoverflow helped him with his CFW, but I think you forgot something really important. Remember why "Other OS" was removed? Wasn't it because geohot found something and Sony got scared? Didn't the removal of "Other OS" push hackers to bring that feature back, leaving them to find the 3.41 exploit and leading him to bring the CFW for 3.55? I think he actually did.

      Let's get it straight brother, he wasn't the first to jailbreak it, but as always, he was ONE of the first to make the moves. Let's not forget something either. Your a pirate and your pirating is based on people following geohot CFW and others to enable for pirating. I don't care of you do it or not, but if that man didn't put some work down, you would not have any thing you have from others.

      And Graf, I take that personal because he has NO RIGHT TO BE GETTING SUED. He gives a F about Linux. If he didn't, he would have ran like a girl like a lot of the developers who quit when big brother sent the lawyers in black suits on them. Sony wants to stop hackers on PSN and Pirates, none of which he does, so where is their cause? There is none, nor will there ever be one. I take it personal because he cares about something and your taking away something one human being loves to do at his own risk and not killing nor hurting any one nor your money or system.

      Geohot can not and will not get jail time for this, thus your facts are wrong and like I said in my previous comment, much confused on a lot of things. The most they will do is make sure he never hacks any thing on a system again. As we all know, even you, though you seem to love the attention on here like geohot loves it with hacking, Sony wants to make messages out of people. With many who know who geohot is, Sony will try as hard as possible to make the message as loud and as clear to hackers as possible.

      If people want to pirate, then okay, go get them Sony. Every one has pirated before, even them I'm sure. If they want to cut me out of using their PSN while I'm on CFW, that's within their right. I'll just go back to the Wii's and 360 online play. If Sony want's to make updates to stop me, that's fine. But get the people you claim who pirate and cheat on PSN, don't sue those who make you money, don't use PSN nor even play pirate crap. That's where I stand within my own opinion.
    1. Angel Diaz's Avatar
      Angel Diaz -
      Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
      No son he's not the second coming of jesus. I was playing my emulators on PS3 with JB dongle since october LOOOOOOOOONG before geohot appeared. You're acting like he is the one that made hacking on PS3 possible lmao.

      You're giving him too much credit, where is your love for FailoverFlow? They were honest, they cared for Linux. They came, they saw, they hacked and got the f*ck out. They weren't attention wh0ring like geohot and graf_choco.

      Word is geohot is gonna spend time in prison, Sony already got access to his hard drives and paypal account. Its only a matter of time.
      Stupid troll is stupid
    1. Yden's Avatar
      Yden -
      Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
      The PS3 community sincerely hopes geohots defeat and is wishing him many years in prison.

      Karma is a b!tch, now Sony also got access to his paypal, thats what you get when you try to act like a hero giving interviews, thinking you're a rockstar. Geo Epic Fail
      Why does this guy visit (and post) a community based on ps3 hacking and homebrew when he's so against it?
    1. bob19201's Avatar
      bob19201 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Yden View Post
      Why does this guy visit (and post) a community based on ps3 hacking and homebrew when he's so against it?
      Because he tries so hard for people like you to comment at the ridiculous things that he posts. This brings him the satisfaction he wants. Just ignore him and stop replying to his obvious troll comments. Simple enough, right?. BTW I was generalizing this post to the people that "love" Turkish. That may or may not include you.
    1. Mjollnir-PSG's Avatar
      Mjollnir-PSG -
      Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
      No son he's not the second coming of jesus. I was playing my emulators on PS3 with JB dongle since october LOOOOOOOOONG before geohot appeared. You're acting like he is the one that made hacking on PS3 possible lmao.
      Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
      1st event: Geohot claims he found glitch in OtherOS
      2nd event: Sony removes OtherOS because it might lead to piracy
      3rd event: some douche steals Sony's magic USB key and makes it into a JB device
      Hey Turkey make up yer mind what order did things happen ? btw i like how you edited your original post and changed it so it was completely different now if i remember correctly you posted saying it was because of Geo's hacks the JB devices where made(the edit btw you removed this piece of text)... now your saying differently..

      as i said i dont normally feed the trolls but you are funny Turkey man.. hope it goes well for ya playing those (what was it you said) 50gigs worth of Roms which im sure you own every single one of them.. Id love to see a list of yer Roms and a photo of all the Carts since yer not a pirate at all.

      and before you say "its not pirating they are old..." Bullzhit its still pirating those games are still sold in most cases on systems like the Wii hell one of my mates bought a little system that looked like a mini Sega master system that had around 50 games built into it, runs off batterys and plugs right into the TV. lisenced by Sega too..
    1. Meok's Avatar
      Meok -
      And again.
      If you guys hate so much sony?
      Why don’t smash an ps3 an put a video on youtube??? =D

      Ohh I just had an idea Why don’t you guys start a holyday?
      "Smash ps3 day"
      Yeah that will show those b@stards how bada$$ pirates and pop-hackers are!
      No one shall mess with the Geohotz´s family!
    1. jon's Avatar
      jon -
      Quote Originally Posted by Mjollnir View Post
      Hey Turkey make up yer mind what order did things happen ? btw i like how you edited your original post and changed it so it was completely different now if i remember correctly you posted saying it was because of Geo's hacks the JB devices where made(the edit btw you removed this piece of text)... now your saying differently..

      as i said i dont normally feed the trolls but you are funny Turkey man.. hope it goes well for ya playing those (what was it you said) 50gigs worth of Roms which im sure you own every single one of them.. Id love to see a list of yer Roms and a photo of all the Carts since yer not a pirate at all.

      and before you say "its not pirating they are old..." Bullzhit its still pirating those games are still sold in most cases on systems like the Wii hell one of my mates bought a little system that looked like a mini Sega master system that had around 50 games built into it, runs off batterys and plugs right into the TV. lisenced by Sega too..
      You know what I laugh about the most when it comes to that dude? Its the fact that he says geohot is an attention *****, but this fool comes on here popping his fingers on the keyboard for attention? I'm starting to see jealously and envy within your words and that payton manning looking picture you have turk.
    1. NEO117-PSG's Avatar
      NEO117-PSG -
      Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
      The PS3 community sincerely hopes geohots defeat and is wishing him many years in prison.

      Karma is a b!tch, now Sony also got access to his paypal, thats what you get when you try to act like a hero giving interviews, thinking you're a rockstar. Geo Epic Fail
      Mate... really, you don't seem to get what's going on here. They are showing to everyone out there that they can circumvent the rights of the people with money. That's flat out corruption right there. I do not in any way like Geohot, in fact, I hope this will be a good scare for him so he stops being such a gigantic attention ***** and actually... you know... Works on something, instead of stealing from Fail0verflow and claiming it his own, but this is just plain corruption on $ony's part. If they manage to win. Do you know what's gonna happen to those emulators you and I love so much? That's right. GONE

      All in all....

      Geohot is:

      Attention *****...CHECK
      PS3 borderline lamer...CHECK
      ***** moralfag...CHECK
      Power/fame hungry...CHECK

      Even with all that, we need this guy to win, otherwise everyone else (including the emulator devs) are going to have to stop their work permanently and other entities will take this way and trample over the consumer with bogus user contracts that you just HAVE to accept in order to use your device AFTER you paid for it. Remember that not all countries have a return policy (like mine )
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