PSX-SCENE Forum Discussion for Sony PlayStation/PsOne/PS2/PS3/PSP/PS VITA
  • Exploit for Dumping LV0 From 3.60 Revealed - Will Lead to 3.60 Keys

    Some very exciting news has been revealed today by Mathieulh. He has recently exploited and dumped LV0 on 3.60 firmwares. However, unlike some of his past exploits where he has kept the details rather closely guarded, this time around he is rather candid on how to reproduce his method.

    Attachment 1057

    One user on twitter, by the name of Ps3WeOwnYoU, is already claiming to have reproduced Mathieulh's trick. He is stating that he currently possesses the decrypted LV0 from 3.60 after using the trick. However, Ps3WeOwnYoU's claims have not yet been substantiated and this should still be considered a rumor.

    So for the less technically inclined what exactly does Mathieulh's exploit mean for the average user? Well, it will provide access to the 3.60 keys, which in turn would lead to everything we're accustomed to on 3.55 and 3.41 (ie. jailbreak/homebrew on 3.60).

    Mathieulh's Tweets:

    @xShadow125 You can update from your pwn pup only from 3.55 or lower, unless you have an exploit.
    @xShadow125 Of course that should be fixed in upcoming lv0 revisions anyway (By moving the ldrs to the top of lv0)
    @xShadow125 You run the 3.60 lv0, then you switch the nor, and pull the cell reset line, and you dump the extra KBs where the loaders are.
    @xShadow125 Basically you have a nor with 3.55 (or lower) lv0 and your own small lv1 code that does the dump, and 3.60 lv0 on the other.
    @xShadow125 You wont get all of lv0 but the part with the loaders shouldn’t be overwritten.
    @xShadow125 You can actually get all the 3.60 keys/loaders without knowing lv0 keys by dumping lv0 from ram with dual nor and signed lv1.
    To those planning on building a 3.56+ pup for whatever reason, the files attributes changed, the group and user ids for the files as well.
    The new 3.56+ values for tarballs are the following: owner_id, “0000764″ group_id, “0000764″ owner, “tetsu” group, “tetsu” ustar, “ustar “
    You can use fix_tar to use those new values. Use with caution.
    By comparison, those are the pre-3.56 values. owner_id, “0001752″ group_id, “0001274″ owner, “pup_tool” group, “psnes” ustar, “ustar “
    @Ps3WeOwnYoU You need to either decrypt or dump lv0, then you can get the encrypted loaders and decrypt them with the metldr key. Good luck.
    So, to decrypt this LV0 thing, we need to get to know it better. In the latest blog post by rms, he has explained briefly what LV0 is in the console’s security.

    Anyway, let’s really discuss something PS3 instead of my PC xD, let’s start with Lv0, the most unknown level of the PS3. Lv0 initializes PS3 base hardware such as PowerPC/PPU portion of Cell/BE, SPU isolation for asecure_loader, and gelic ethernet/WLAN device. Lv0 also proudly proclaims itself as the “Cell OS Bootloader”. In older firmwares, 0.80-ish to 3.56, Lv0 initialized SPU isolation on one of the SPUs, then it loaded and decrypted asecure_loader. Asecure_loader or metldr then decrypts the isolated loader, in this case, lv1ldr, then lv1ldr decrypts lv1.self. In 3.60 this changed. Lv0 now has all of the loaders integrated into it as one large fat binary. All the keys one needs such as Public ECDSA key/AES CBC key and Initialization Vector and ECDSA curve type are in there. Just go ahead and grab them if you can get the ldrs out of the binary.
    So, unless you can decrypt Lv0, no 3.60 “CFW” for you . Is there any need for it anyway?

    Mathieulh also has some facts to clarify about LV0.

    1. lv0 isn’t a loader it’s a ppu binary

    2. Lv0 isn’t encrypted per console and can be updated with the rest of the coreos

    3. Lv0 is decrypted by the bootloader, there is no such thing as a lv0ldr.

    4. The bootloader keys cannot be updated/modified on EXISTING hardware

    5. lv0.2 is NOT a binary, it’s a new metadata for lv0 which is to be decrypted and verified by a new bootloader (which is to be available on future ps3s), it is NOT used by the current bootloader (and thus in current playstation 3 consoles)
    But wait, messing with this thing could lead to the YLOD tragedy, unless you have those expensive NOR flasher you might want to proceed, and that’s according to rms again.

    Lv0 also does some more interesting stuff such as SPU mailbox handling, and eEID integrity checks. Lv0 also used to check for QA flag and proper token, that is now in a spu isolated self in Core OS. Now, if you did tamper with eEID, lv0 will panic out, and your console will then “YLOD”, and you’d need a flasher for your PS3 to recover .
    There you go, with all the information available out there i just wonder why didn’t anyone found the solution to the exploit that Mathieulh (and maybe some people we didn’t know) discovered weeks ago. Maybe instead of *****ing why the guy did not release anything, try listening to what he said this time.

    Source:
    PS3Crunch
    Comments 56 Comments
    1. cmptrblder-PSG's Avatar
      cmptrblder-PSG -
      .......ditto and if your on a modded console just accept not using PSN. There are WAY too many benifits that far out weigh PSN access. You want access that bad? buy a second console used so your not feeding the sony machine.
    1. Blasler's Avatar
      Blasler -
      new´s CFW will be jus to connect to psn or to the games that ask for them...anyway for that games just mod the EBOOT... so new´s cfw just will be to PSN nothing more
    1. Darkman-PSG's Avatar
      Darkman-PSG -
      exactly.... there is no point! just buy another console Sony is just gunna update it and go sue happy
    1. Darkman-PSG's Avatar
      Darkman-PSG -
      Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
      Hooray, why would you try to hack OFW 3.60? Why waste your time on a cat and mouse game with Sony? To please some people who were (sorry for harsh words) dumb enough to update? The people that wanted CFW were wise enough to not update. And no don't come here and say "bu bu but... I didnt know 3.60 was unhackable", we got the same arguments back in september when people updated to 3.42.

      Better work on something more useful, I dont wanna update my ps3 every couple of weeks/months and then get compatibility issues with my signed 3.55 homebrew.

      Take not from the psp scene, 5.00m33-6 from 2009 still going strong, no need for new firmwares.
      yeah you are right 5.00m33-6 is still the best cfw up to date.... you know the ps3 scene is like the psp scene... seen how DA left and cfw turned to ****... same like the ps3... the cfw out there isnt all that great
    1. TWITDADDY's Avatar
      TWITDADDY -
      Untill sony adds some useful features to a new fw what is the point? At this point I'm sure any features added are for security. I know they have the cloud storage, but who really cares lol
    1. mgrimmenator's Avatar
      mgrimmenator -
      mmm, maybe if dump 3.60 then can patch 3.55 to make think 3.60. any advances are good.
    1. TWITDADDY's Avatar
      TWITDADDY -
      I'm really hoping someone will port xbmc to ps3 with a direct boot option. To me xmb is just too blah. I've messed with themes but the changes are minimal. I would like to be able to write my own scripts to have my machine do what i want
    1. TWITDADDY's Avatar
      TWITDADDY -
      Quote Originally Posted by mgrimmenator View Post
      mmm, maybe if dump 3.60 then can patch 3.55 to make think 3.60. any advances are good.
      I read today that someone took what sony checks on 3.60 and added it to 3.55cfw and was able to return to psn. Im not really sure if that works or not and I didnt read to much in to it since I have no desire to use psn. Ill check my history and try to give a link later
    1. Kingj13-PSG's Avatar
      Kingj13-PSG -
      Some of us would like psn access back, it may be easier to achieve if we are actually on 3.60 rather than 3.55 or below!
    1. ihaxgames-PSG's Avatar
      ihaxgames-PSG -
      I want PSN access back, but I can live without it, what I'd rather have newer CFW for is new games and features, but I can live with 3.55
    1. Joaquin Montano's Avatar
      Joaquin Montano -
      Why is it people are saying buy another console for? A lot of people out their don't have the money to spend $300+ bucks again.. If you don't care about PSN, and your happy about CFW 3.55 or lower. Then you don't have too update too CFW 3.60 then.. I have read a lot of people saying " I don't care about PSN,no point of release CFW3.60" well maybe some of you don't care about it. But many other people would be happy too get CFW 3.60.. I know I be happy to have CFW 3.60.
    1. DGPRodiGY-PSG's Avatar
      DGPRodiGY-PSG -
      Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
      Hooray, why would you try to hack OFW 3.60? Why waste your time on a cat and mouse game with Sony? To please some people who were (sorry for harsh words) dumb enough to update? The people that wanted CFW were wise enough to not update. And no don't come here and say "bu bu but... I didnt know 3.60 was unhackable", we got the same arguments back in september when people updated to 3.42.

      Better work on something more useful, I dont wanna update my ps3 every couple of weeks/months and then get compatibility issues with my signed 3.55 homebrew.

      Take not from the psp scene, 5.00m33-6 from 2009 still going strong, no need for new firmwares.
      Why are you so ignorant? Some people are new to the PS3 jailbreaking scene and maybe some people didn't know about 3.55 CFW and they read about it, now they want a 3.60 CFW, simple!
    1. DGPRodiGY-PSG's Avatar
      DGPRodiGY-PSG -
      Quote Originally Posted by TWITDADDY View Post
      I'm really hoping someone will port xbmc to ps3 with a direct boot option. To me xmb is just too blah. I've messed with themes but the changes are minimal. I would like to be able to write my own scripts to have my machine do what i want
      That's actually a pretty sick idea, I'd love to make my PS3 XMB look like the Xbox Dashboard, that'd be AWESOME!
    1. medalcue's Avatar
      medalcue -
      Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
      Hooray, why would you try to hack OFW 3.60? Why waste your time on a cat and mouse game with Sony? To please some people who were (sorry for harsh words) dumb enough to update? The people that wanted CFW were wise enough to not update. And no don't come here and say "bu bu but... I didnt know 3.60 was unhackable", we got the same arguments back in september when people updated to 3.42.

      Better work on something more useful, I dont wanna update my ps3 every couple of weeks/months and then get compatibility issues with my signed 3.55 homebrew.

      Take not from the psp scene, 5.00m33-6 from 2009 still going strong, no need for new firmwares.
      You ask why waste your time with a cat and mouse game with Sony? Ask yourself why you hang out at these forums for hours every single day wasting your time whining and making yourself look like a ******. The only diff is, their doing something worth doing. Your doing your trolling because you need the attention.
    1. goblueguy11's Avatar
      goblueguy11 -
      Who cares about CFW for 3.60?
      Lets just try to get PSN working on CFW 3.55!
    1. cboushell-PSG's Avatar
      cboushell-PSG -
      Quote Originally Posted by TWITDADDY View Post
      I'm really hoping someone will port xbmc to ps3 with a direct boot option. To me xmb is just too blah. I've messed with themes but the changes are minimal. I would like to be able to write my own scripts to have my machine do what i want



      Quote Originally Posted by DGPRodiGY View Post
      That's actually a pretty sick idea, I'd love to make my PS3 XMB look like the Xbox Dashboard, that'd be AWESOME!


      It wouldn't look like the XBOX dashboard, it would look like the XBMC user interface, since it WOULD BE XBMC. That would be nice if it was to end up on PS3, especially with an autoboot. One can dream. Maybe with Linux.
    1. peeer-PSG's Avatar
      peeer-PSG -
      There is no use for a cfw 3.60 really. If you guys wondering for PSN with cfws then you really need to grow up. Sony can and they will patch their PSN/OFWs to block the access from cfws. They can't be blamed either for patching it. You can't go at the store to buy butter and get the butter and the money for the butter. Get real.
    1. Captain Obvious's Avatar
      Captain Obvious -
      Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
      Hooray, why would you try to hack OFW 3.60? Why waste your time on a cat and mouse game with Sony? To please some people who were (sorry for harsh words) dumb enough to update? The people that wanted CFW were wise enough to not update. And no don't come here and say "bu bu but... I didnt know 3.60 was unhackable", we got the same arguments back in september when people updated to 3.42.

      Better work on something more useful, I dont wanna update my ps3 every couple of weeks/months and then get compatibility issues with my signed 3.55 homebrew.

      Take not from the psp scene, 5.00m33-6 from 2009 still going strong, no need for new firmwares.
      I completely agree with turkish, why would mathieulh risk being sued by the giant enemy crab just for the little nublets who updated their ps3s.

      I have 3 ps3s, one on 3.15(for linux), one on 3.55 (perm banned), and one on 3.60(for online)

      I'm only 14 and even I know that people my age and younger are stupid. and I don't see why kids cant save their money or beg their parents to buy another PS3 rather than annoying people and pressuring them into risking a lawsuit.

      and yes, when I got console-banned I completely deserved it. I disobeyed Sony and went online with fpsn.

      Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
      Take not from the psp scene, 5.00m33-6 from 2009 still going strong, no need for new firmwares.
      is it just me or is anyone else still on 3.80m33-2 ?
    1. Captain Obvious's Avatar
      Captain Obvious -
      Quote Originally Posted by peeer View Post
      You can't go at the store to buy butter and get the butter and the money for the butter. Get real.
      exactly, and the butter company has every right to sue people for for putting butter on bagels rather than on toast...
    1. One2thr456svn's Avatar
      One2thr456svn -
      I am sure that someone who is on 3.60 cares about CFW for 3.60,

      And I do not think that this is just to get access to the PSN, it is not that great anyway. I think that this is more for the challenge of cracking it, not just for a CFW, just to do it. and it's funny how people a saying that "we don't need a 3.60 CFW, but when they were on 3.42 or 3.50 and the 3.41 was the OFW to have to do anything there was not this much backlash. simply put of you don't need it, don't use it. allow the new noobs that get in on the action have fun just like you.....

      And it's a lot new devs apparently cause I see people saying that we don't need this or that, so I can not wait to see what they release?
  • Daily Digest


    Want to receive the latest PSX info in your email?

    Sign up for our Daily Digest!



    Want to learn more about the team keeping you up to date with the latest scene news?

    Read about them now!

    Check out our Developer bios, too!

  • Recent Threads

    smokie1313

    serious issue here PLZ HELP

    Thread Starter: smokie1313

    okay here it goes
    i got 4 ps3 cech-3001a/b that shut off 2 secs after trying to power up
    red green then no lights at all

    Last Post By: atreyu187 Today, 03:29 AM Go to last post
    sparker781

    Sleeping Dogs Add-Ons

    Thread Starter: sparker781

    Hey All

    Thanks for stopping by. Essentially I can get the add-ons with no problem...But am not sure if I am doing something wrong cause

    Last Post By: BahumatLord Yesterday, 11:17 PM Go to last post
    rvuy9645

    Looking for: PS2 network adapter [EUR]

    Thread Starter: rvuy9645

    Hello,

    Looking for a network adaptor in Europe.
    I'm living in Belgium.
    Want to upgrade my fat PS2 with a HDD.
    Anybody

    Last Post By: rvuy9645 Yesterday, 06:18 PM Go to last post
    SonyUSA

    iPod Touch 5th Gen Digitizer Replacement Guide !

    Thread Starter: SonyUSA

    Welcome to SonyUSA's Totally Amazing Digitizer Only iPod Touch 5th Generation Replacement Guide! V. 1.2!
    *trumpets!*

    Guide made for

    Last Post By: wartutor Today, 12:32 AM Go to last post
    PS456

    Weird Fragmentation problem

    Thread Starter: PS456

    Okay, a couple months ago i used Opl for my backups constantly. Eventually i grew bored, and got rid of all the backups and formatted my usb. Now i tried

    Last Post By: SP193 Today, 03:01 AM Go to last post
    ANTZ7

    About fight night champion

    Thread Starter: ANTZ7

    Has anybody managed to successfully resisgn
    Fight night champ I can't resign the save file to another user name I done a few games but just can

    Last Post By: worrorfight Yesterday, 05:50 PM Go to last post
  • Recent Comments

    alzaabi

    BwE NOR Validator v1.30

    thank you very much but does this really patch Nor Dumps ?
    or just validate it ? Go to last post

    alzaabi Today 04:03 AM
    TheShadowRunner

    PS2 Controller Remapper v1.00 - by pelvicthrustman

    Woah totally awesome app, pelvicthrustman!
    A suggestion, could you extend the functionality for... Go to last post

    TheShadowRunner Today 02:32 AM
    coldlm

    PS2 Controller Remapper v1.00 - by pelvicthrustman

    how about making the PS2 controller vibrate on PS3! Go to last post

    coldlm Today 12:43 AM
    worrorfight

    Comedy on Demand: Laugh Factory on PS3 Updated

    Should be free service. :) Go to last post

    worrorfight Yesterday 09:54 PM
    worrorfight

    BwE NOR Validator v1.30

    Great update BwE I like this a lot! Go to last post

    worrorfight Yesterday 09:48 PM
    worrorfight

    PS2 Controller Remapper v1.00 - by pelvicthrustman

    Very cool indeed. Go to last post

    worrorfight Yesterday 09:47 PM
    atreyu187

    3K3Y -- PS3 Blu Ray ODD Emulator

    It was done by checksums when people use the on screen display to load games instead of manually... Go to last post

    atreyu187 Yesterday 09:39 PM
    FrogDR

    3K3Y -- PS3 Blu Ray ODD Emulator

    could you show a links to the info with M$ and way to detect x360key users ? Go to last post

    FrogDR Yesterday 07:40 PM
    diegsmoran

    PS2 Controller Remapper v1.00 - by pelvicthrustman

    Wow, this is way cool. Definatly useful for JP games using the X button to select! or changing some... Go to last post

    diegsmoran Yesterday 05:21 PM
    elmaki

    [GTA IV] Major Distribution Mod Loader by ICECOLDKILLAH

    good gooodddd Go to last post

    elmaki Yesterday 04:34 PM