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  • Graf_Chokolo Court Documents Published

    graf_chokolo just published the court documents that he received from SCEE for reverse engineering the hypervisor of the PS3 as well as his work on bringing back the OtherOS program. The documents are in German so only you fluent German speakers will have a clue of what graf_chokolo is currently facing.

    Download:



    http://openjur.de/u/86561.pdf
    http://openjur.de/u/86443.pdf


    And here is a stripped version of the TRO from yesterday.


    http://openjur.de/u/91993.pdf
    http://openjur.de/u/91994.pdf


    Anyone willing to translate some of the interesting bits, feel free to in the comments.


    Source: PS3Crunch
    Comments 47 Comments
    1. FernandoLuis's Avatar
      FernandoLuis -
      Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
      You bought their PS3, its yours but they made it. Doesn't your PS3 say Sony somewhere? Does your PS3 say Sony when booting up? If not then GTFO. I can't believe all these people hating on Sony while they use Sony's product. If it so bad, why don't you by an xbox?

      Just a bunch of hypocrites, hate on a Sony machine, claim that u will boycot Sony but in the evening, play on your Sony PS3 lmao.
      Better yet,people as stupid like you shouldn't be allowed to have any kids.That would be child abuse
    1. carlos-PSG's Avatar
      carlos-PSG -
      Quote Originally Posted by superdood View Post
      don't you all get that they can go after him for distributing copyrighted material?
      everyone keeps saying how graf_chokolo has nothing to do with piracy or doesn't support it, yet he IS a pirate.
      as much as I'm grateful for having linux back on my PS3 I think software developers have to have the right to protect their IP. so yeah in my eyes both graf and geohot are criminals, what I don't understand is why they haven't released their stuff anonymously/protect their true identities.
      Perhaps, because THEY DIDN'T release Sony copyrighted or [sic] illegal stuff. geohot was especially carefull about this. I cannot be absolutely certain about graf (he has released a *lot* of stuff), but I don't think he is a idiot any more than geohot. Ok, it might be graf re-used some code of Sony's GPL'd OtherOS tools - but that is not what you mean

      Now - since I cannot prove the negative: you need to please post a link to something geohot or graf chokolo has posted that is indeed illegal.
    1. Robin Bochen's Avatar
      Robin Bochen -
      Intresting bit: He has to pay 5000 euros (6500 $) and can be kept in holding for 10 days.
    1. David9602's Avatar
      David9602 -
      I. By way of injunction - the urgency, without a hearing - is
      first the defendant in avoiding, by the court for each violation to be fixed fine for contempt and for the case that this can not be recovered, an order of detention or an arrest up to 6 months (administrative fine in some cases more than € 250,000.00, more than two in jail years) in relation to both applicants are
      prohibited,
      a) for the P. .. games, program libraries of the applicants included, reproduce, either in encrypted or decrypted form
      ) changes in the Console P. .. b, or to the P. .. Download playable game and intervention in the Console P. .. or on the P. .. playable download game make, or allow easier is making the game consoles and games of the applicants to remove copy protection mechanisms, and / or getting around, so that unauthorized copies of console games, especially decrypted copies on disk created and / or place there of, will be able to ,
      c) ask others to play the internet to upload to or otherwise reproduce, the libraries applicants contain and / or
      d) tools to publish instructions or publish or allow, with the help of user engagement in a game console, P. .. or on the P. .. make can download games playable, which facilitates or copy protection mechanisms in these game consoles and games of the applicants and / or remove to get around, so that unauthorized copies of console games to a created and / Hard Disk or from there be able to play makes it possible, especially if they are actions in a) to d) to the board p. .., other games from the online shop of the P. .. Networks (especially in the form of NPDRM) files, the file O. .. SELF or other program files of the applicants (in the form of SELF-files) belong;
      second the defendant abandoned, information relating to the applicants, the acts referred to in point I.1 above. Since December 2010 by giving the affected game, the use volume, location and time of each duplication or posting on the Internet,
      3rd the defendant abandoned, and all copies of media or devices that are themselves copies of games or applications in point I.1 all., just as if individually or in a data processing device such as a P. .. Game console, a PC or a smartphone built, a bailiff for the custody for the purpose of securing the claims of the applicants for the destruction of the files to be returned to.
      II At the request of the applicants is to visit the the control of the defendant located in other media, just as if individually or in a data processing device such as a P. .. Game console, a PC or a smartphone built, if at the time of the execution of the seizure pursuant to Section I.3. not seen each point I.1. the tenor fall under a separate evidentiary proceedings under § § 485 et seq ZPO - because of the urgency without being heard - located as follows:
      first It is by obtaining an expert opinion schiftlichen evidence must be taken on whether to which the control of the defendant located disks in point I.1. data referred to are:
      - games for the P. .. copies which libraries contain the applicants, either in encrypted or decrypted form
      - game consoles for the P. .. or for the P. .. Download Games, changes or adjustments have to made ​​possible by or facilitate, these game consoles and games of the applicants to remove copy protection mechanisms, and / or getting around, so that unauthorized copies of console games, especially decrypted copies on created and / or there will be able to play disc one,
      - calls to third parties, games, the Internet, upload to or otherwise reproduce, the libraries applicants contain and / or
      - instructions or equipment that allows the user to an interference with a game console P. .. or on the P. .. make can download games playable, which facilitates or copy protection mechanisms in these game consoles and games of the applicants, and to remove or get around, so that unauthorized copies of console games to a created and / Hard Disk or from there be able to play makes it.
      2nd The expert is Mr. Dipl.-Ing. ... ordered.
      The expert is allowed, the actions by assistants support can be arranged for. The expert will in particular for the identification of the Game S. .. especially on the road systems 6 and 7 and the road system road nine noted.
      3rd The expert is given up, contact with the applicants to avoid any immediate and necessary correspondence from either the court or with the following in Section III. Representatives of the applicants to perform designated attorney. The expert is also against third parties to secrecy also.
      4th The assessment should - because of the particular urgency - previous cargo and consultation take place without the defendant.
      5th After establishing the written opinion is this four copies), only the local court to end with (.
      Some disks are produced in court custody when taken.
      6th After presenting the written opinion of the defendant is given the opportunity, any interest in secrecy, to his side to exist, to take a position. The board will then decide on whether and with what restrictions, if the report is brought to the applicants and having regard to the confidentiality obligations of the lawyers representing the applicants, is repealed.
      7th The implementation of the self-evidence method is dependent on the applicants' costs incurred by an advance in the amount of 5,000.00 euros for the judicial office in Hamburg deposit in advance. After that preparation, this decision to the experts for him to be taken by transmitted.
      The deadline for implementing the activities of this decision is the bailiff to the tune of experts.
      III. By way of interlocutory injunction - because of the urgency of previous oral without a hearing - is ordered as follows:
      first The defendant is ordered, one of the applicants to be commissioned competent bailiff, accompanied by the above in section II appointed expert access to his apartment in the ... Street ... in ... and the disks therein, whether individually or in a data processing device such as a P. .. Game console, a PC or a smartphone built to provide.
      2nd The defendant is ordered, visit the media in accordance with the Paragraph III.1. by the experts to submit to this decision and that all of this for the commissioning and operation of the computer and access the media content necessary information, especially login information such as passwords, to make available. He has to tolerate it, that the expert the media to be evaluated, in accordance with Paragraph III.1. that decision, in appearances, is continuing to examine the operation, draws, photographs and notes used a voice recorder.
      3rd For the duration of the studies described in the media for the purposes of Section III.1. this decision is official detention by the bailiff ordered their. This must ensure that the expert place an immediate investigation into the above-described manner is made ​​possible, first and disks no changes made ​​to the to the mandatory through examination itself causes are not.
      Can the investigations described in the media in the sense Section III.1 of. of this decision be made ​​not place, so the defendant is obliged to surrender them to the bailiff. The bailiff is the volume of the experts called in custody until investigations under Section II of this Decision for preparation of the report are completed sequester as long as, at most until a matching release statement of the parties or a final decision on the matter.
      4th The defendant is ordered, the media are to be evaluated in accordance with Paragraph III.1. this decision for a period of official custody make any changes. In particular, the defendant is forbidden to remove them, to rewrite or otherwise make unusable. For each case of violation of this prohibition will be in jail the defendant a fine of up to EUR 250,000.00, failing that, in jail, or up to six months threatened.
      6th In addition to the expert respondent, the applicants' representatives, the presence during the assessment to allow attorneys the following:
      - Lawyer ... and
      - Lawyer ...
      The above two lawyers are obliged to facts, the course of self-proof method to their attention get in and the private sector or any business of the defendant's concern to keep secret, and as against the applicants and their employees.
      IV The value of the subject matter for the independent method of proof is set at 250,000.00 euros, while that for the interim injunction proceedings to € 750,000.00.
      V. The cost of the injunction proceedings with the defendant.
    1. No0bzilla-PSG's Avatar
      No0bzilla-PSG -
      Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
      You bought their PS3, its yours but they made it. Doesn't your PS3 say Sony somewhere? .
      yep, and my milk jug say mayfeild, whats your point? anyways your an idiot and like someone said earlier, people like you should have their internet taken away, because you troll a forums just to piss people off. why dont you quite down boy/girl/it w.e you are before you make yourself look like more of an idiot
    1. ISOHaven-PSG's Avatar
      ISOHaven-PSG -
      What the hell is that sight with the supposed court documents? It hardly has anything on it and it has facebook and twitter links?

      I call BS on the whole thing. Looks fake.
    1. Sydney Amateur's Avatar
      Sydney Amateur -
      A thief knows a thief as a wolf knows a wolf.