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  • Sony Claims to have Found Geohot's PSN Account - Geohot Currently Hanging Out in South America

    After going relatively well, geohot's court case with Sony has taken a major turn for the worse. Sony is reporting that geohot does in fact have a PSN account and that geohot had lied about not having one. As you may remember, Sony has been trying to prove this for some time, as it would help show California does have jurisdiction in the case. Also in what seems quite odd, Sony is reporting that George Hotz is in South America and has been using his location to stall the case.


    Download: Court Document


    Further Information in Article from VGHQ.net:


    After the judge demanded George Hotz gives in his devices and hard drives, the PlayStation 3 hacker ran away to South America to avoid handing his possessions in and now has put his case in extreme jeopardy. The hacker also lied about having a PlayStation Network account. GeoHot has finally been caught out.


    An official document (found here) filed by Sony from the Sony Computer Entertainment America LLC v. Hotz case recently detailed Hot’z recent actions. It said:


    Though the evidence establishing personal jurisdiction is already overwhelming, SCEA has little doubt that there is much more. However, over the last several weeks. Hotz has engaged in a campaign to thwart jurisdictional discovery at every turn –regardless of whether the Court has ordered such discovery or not. Most seriously, after Magistrate Judge Spero ordered an inspection of Hotz’s devices and ordered Hotz to appear at a deposition in California, SCEA learned that Hotz had deliberately removed integral components of his impounded hard drives prior to delivering them to a third party neutral and that Hotz is now in South America, an excuse for why he will not immediately provide the components of his hard drives as requested by the neutral. Hotz’s attempts to dodge this Court’s authority raise very serious questions.
    Additionally, Sony said:


    When SCEA echoed TIG’s request that the components of the hard drives be delivered immediately, Hotz’s counsel responded that Hotz was in South America.
    The hacker also lied about having a PSN account:


    On January 12, 2011, Hotz submitted a declaration to the Court (Docket No. 19-1) in which he made unequivocal statements on a number of topics. However, when it came to discussing the PSN account, Hotz equivocated, stating: “To the best of my knowledge and belief, I do not have a PlayStation Network account.” Hotz also provided interrogatory responses that he has refused to verify, stating that he has not accessed the PSN. Bricker Decl. ¶4.Hotz identified four PS3 Systems in his possession. Bricker Decl., ¶4, Exh. C. He explained that he had purchased one of these consoles new in February 2010 and provided the serial number for that console. Id. SCEA used that serial number to determine that on February 25, 2010, Hotz purchased the PS3 System at a Gamestop store just miles from his home. Law Decl., ¶6; Bricker Decl., ¶6, Exh. E. SCEA’s records show that the same PS3 System was used on March 10, 2010 to create a PSN account under the user name “blickmanic.” Law Decl., ¶6, Exh. A. The IP address associated with the registration is located in Glen Rock, New Jersey, where Hotz lives.
    Then, more evidence regarding his PSN account was discovered:


    Hotz’s ownership of the “blickmanic” account is further supported by the fact that an Internet search of the user name “blickmanic” reveals a posting discussing the jailbreaking of cellular phones – Hotz’s original “claim to fame.” Bricker Decl., ¶7, Exh. F (“Just curious what people would pay for exclusive rights to this solution. [Motorola] Tracfone W175g unlocked and debranded. PM me.”) As discussed above, to create his PSN account, Hotz was required to first agree to the terms of the PSN User Agreement and thus he is clearly subject to personal jurisdiction in California. It is well established that a valid and enforceable forum selection clause operates as consent to personal jurisdiction in a designated forum.
    Sony continued that even without his PSN account breach evidence, they already have enough evidence against him:


    Although Hotz’s PSN account registration clearly establishes jurisdiction, even without it, SCEA has shown the necessary minimum contacts between Hotz and California.
    Oh, boy; it’s going off big now.



    Source: VGHQ.Net
    Comments 94 Comments
    1. stev418-PSG's Avatar
      stev418-PSG -
      this is a crok of $%#$ , you know even IF (and thats a big if) geohot ownes the psn account it still doesnt mean he accepted the terms and conditions, as long as someone vouches for him that they created the account and accepted terms then geohot is not bound by anything.
    1. CrimsonSoul's Avatar
      CrimsonSoul -
      Quote Originally Posted by Meok View Post
      Why don’t you use that money and give to capcom or konami for every thing that they have done? Or even sony for investing a high amount of money creating the ps3? =3
      Unless a person has stolen or received stole merchandise, it's safe to say than under any of the first two reasons given, money has been given to Sony for the creation of the PS3. Same goes for those who have an and own actual disc copy of game(s) for the aforementioned companies.

      Assumptions cause more problems than resolutions.

      Quote Originally Posted by stev418 View Post
      this is a crok of $%#$ , you know even IF (and thats a big if) geohot ownes the psn account it still doesnt mean he accepted the terms and conditions, as long as someone vouches for him that they created the account and accepted terms then geohot is not bound by anything.
      This is where that possession is 9/10ths of the law is going to kick in. It's "legally" under his possession therefore he takes responsibilities for any agreement as a binding contract. See how this works? It's all word play and how people view every aspect of law/laws. It's all a catch twenty two...proving it to his "peers" or persuading a judge who's right and/or who's wrong under the court of law is where the whole litigations comes into play.
    1. One2thr456svn's Avatar
      One2thr456svn -
      Well If I was on that jury, it would be a swift "Not Guilty" from from me. Geo enjoy the vacation.
    1. Blarix-PSG's Avatar
      Blarix-PSG -
      Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
      This is what you get when you blindly follow someone giving flashy interviews like lemmings. He was so full of himself, he had such a big ego. I was AGAINST this guy from the beginning but all I got was disrespect from people here.

      Where are those people that screamed "f*ck Sony!!!1", "I will never buy a Sony product again!!" now???!

      Now he also used YOUR donations for PERSONAL gains! He LIED to YOU and the world.


      Support Sony!
      Support Sony? Why don't you start supporting Sony you pirate. I just caught you on a different forum bragging how your downloaded TopSpin 4 works flawlessly on 3.55 CFW.

      it was on psxscene lol. He is a such a lying hypocrite.
    1. grandy's Avatar
      grandy -
      Quote Originally Posted by ShadowG View Post
      how sad to see a weak post like this one over here....
      grandy you look like a jornalist trying to get atention with a untrue news with lots of mistakes...



      did u read what u posted and got the conclusion that everything was said proves GeoHot has PSN account? Does the fact that someone bough a ps3 on a gamestop close to his wherearea if thats the word, and this person have posted a few posts on forums about phone hacking, proves it was geohot?

      Not that I care if he has or hasn't, the way things is been said here, isn't nice at all...
      Did you read my post? I am not claiming he lied, I specifically wrote that Sony is claiming this. I never bring my opinion into news stories. Also as far geohot being in South America, I didn't draw any conclusions on that either (unlike other sites saying he's fleeing the country). Sony simply states that geohot is using his location to stall the case.

      I've edited the title to show more accuracy. I specifically didn't use the word fled or fleeing because of how ridiculous it would be to report he's trying to escape the courts.
    1. moeaz05-PSG's Avatar
    1. grandy's Avatar
      grandy -
      What exactly is fake? That geohot is in south america or that Sony has evidence towards his PSN account? or ugh neither.
    1. Dustin Willis's Avatar
      Dustin Willis -
      Quote Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin View Post
      I personally think that VGHQ, used the running away part to sensationalize the post, perhaps he is holidaying.
      Or perhaps murdered by sony entertainment?
    1. TWITDADDY's Avatar
      TWITDADDY -
      Everytime something like this comes up people want to start justifying piracy.PIRACY IS ILLEGAL no matter how you word it or whatever style you do it its still illegal. If you own the disc then why would you waste your bandwidth dl'ing it? I personally couldnt care less if all of you egohot gruppies obey the law or not, but when you know you are breaking the law dont try justify it with lame excuses. By the way dosent egohot chain hes wearing on his vacation you guys bought him look super cool LMAO
    1. David9602's Avatar
      David9602 -
      Quote Originally Posted by indecks View Post
      This is probably just ignorance on my part, but what does GeoHot having a PSN account have to do with him jailbreaking the PS3?

      I don't see the connection, but again I probably just don't know the entire detailed situation.
      in the terms of service you agree that SCEA can take you to court in California and the losing side pays all court fees and lawyers
    1. xPreatorianx-PSG's Avatar
      xPreatorianx-PSG -
      He went on vacation. Stop reporting false news. Go to psx-scene for the real news. He just went on vacation.
    1. cboushell-PSG's Avatar
      cboushell-PSG -
      Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
      This is what you get when you blindly follow someone giving flashy interviews like lemmings. He was so full of himself, he had such a big ego. I was AGAINST this guy from the beginning but all I got was disrespect from people here.

      Where are those people that screamed "f*ck Sony!!!1", "I will never buy a Sony product again!!" now???!

      Now he also used YOUR donations for PERSONAL gains! He LIED to YOU and the world.


      Support Sony!


      What evidence do you have that he used legal fund donations to pay for this trip?.......still waiting.............that's what I thought. GO GEO!!
    1. TWITDADDY's Avatar
      TWITDADDY -
      Quote Originally Posted by stev418 View Post
      this is a crok of $%#$ , you know even IF (and thats a big if) geohot ownes the psn account it still doesnt mean he accepted the terms and conditions, as long as someone vouches for him that they created the account and accepted terms then geohot is not bound by anything.
      yeah that would stand up in court. Lets get real here were not talking about detention kids this is the law
    1. TWITDADDY's Avatar
      TWITDADDY -
      Quote Originally Posted by cboushell View Post
      What evidence do you have that he used legal fund donations to pay for this trip?.......still waiting.............that's what I thought. GO GEO!!
      besides the fact a couple weeks ago he couldnt afford a lawyer and now hes on a internatiuonal vacation with a super cool chain. well i guess thats all I need to figure it out
    1. xPreatorianx-PSG's Avatar
      xPreatorianx-PSG -
      Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
      This is what you get when you blindly follow someone giving flashy interviews like lemmings. He was so full of himself, he had such a big ego. I was AGAINST this guy from the beginning but all I got was disrespect from people here.

      Where are those people that screamed "f*ck Sony!!!1", "I will never buy a Sony product again!!" now???!

      Now he also used YOUR donations for PERSONAL gains! He LIED to YOU and the world.


      Support Sony!
      Your a ******g idiot again. He didn't flee to South America. Why would he? ITS A CIVIL CASE WHICH MEANS NO JAIL TIME!

      Sony are just trying to spin ****, and so are the mainstream idiots and now this site.

      The dude is just going on a vacation or as the brits would call it holiday. Wow so now people can't go on holiday without people thinking they are fleeing the country over a ******g civil case? God the world is full of mindless idiots.
    1. TWITDADDY's Avatar
      TWITDADDY -
      Quote Originally Posted by xPreatorianx View Post
      Your a ******g idiot again. He didn't flee to South America. Why would he? ITS A CIVIL CASE WHICH MEANS NO JAIL TIME!

      Sony are just trying to spin ****, and so are the mainstream idiots and now this site.

      The dude is just going on a vacation or as the brits would call it holiday. Wow so now people can't go on holiday without people thinking they are fleeing the country over a ******g civil case? God the world is full of mindless idiots.
      why the name calling? if you dont agree with someone that doesnt make the other person a idiot. And after reading a few of your posts i would have to say your the mindless one
    1. grandy's Avatar
      grandy -
      Quote Originally Posted by xPreatorianx View Post
      He went on vacation. Stop reporting false news. Go to psx-scene for the real news. He just went on vacation.
      We're not reporting false news, perhaps you should read the actual article written. Also read psx-scene's "article" there's no news in it just them slamming other websites.
    1. ch13696's Avatar
      ch13696 -
      Are you guys seriously believing Sony? C'mon, look at the case that Sony is compiling against Geohot. We all know it's a bull **** case.

      I'm sorry, but I'm not believing a thing till I see official court documents from the judge and not from Sony.
    1. sirkid1-PSG's Avatar
      sirkid1-PSG -
      Quote Originally Posted by xPreatorianx View Post
      Your a ******g idiot again. He didn't flee to South America. Why would he? ITS A CIVIL CASE WHICH MEANS NO JAIL TIME!

      Sony are just trying to spin ****, and so are the mainstream idiots and now this site.

      The dude is just going on a vacation or as the brits would call it holiday. Wow so now people can't go on holiday without people thinking they are fleeing the country over a ******g civil case? God the world is full of mindless idiots.
      Agreed. And here i am you douche! and STFU already dude nobody gives a flying ****k about you or what you say. I'm not a Geohot follower or anything but ****k you're annoying and repugnant!
    1. NEO117-PSG's Avatar
      NEO117-PSG -
      Ok... so Geo is on vacation... WHO CARES!!!???? IS THIS RELEVANT TO THE SCENE? NO!

      He's just one big attention *****. I don't care if he's over here, over there or inside his (censored). I don't care, he can be wherever he wants and do whatever he wants.

      He hasn't been anything but one big attention ***** with nothing to back up his crap. Stealing work from Fail0verflow and presenting it as his own... then saving info all for himself and letting people know that this was the case!

      And what happened to Fail0verflow? They were sued as well but you never hear about them, oh no... But Geohot? He's everywhere!! Its about time this stopped, we don't want attention craving power hungry *******es. We want sceners who are willing to contribute something out of their own free will and if that means there will be no more PS3 scene (which seems to be happening) then so be it. Egohot, wherever you are, have fun, but I don't care unless you bring something to the table. Something you made yourself for a change btw.
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