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  • Geohot Responds to Sony's Legal Motion

    Yesterday, we reported on leaked court documents, filed by Sony's lawyers against Geohot (George Hotz) and fail0verflow. Today, further legal docs, regarding the case, have surfaced on the net. This time around, we get to see Geohot's legal response to Sony's recent accusations. These documents, which were filed by Mr. Hotz's attorney today, give us a first look on his defense.
    Attachment 654

    Download: Hotz Legal Response.rar (1.66 MB)

    Geohot's attorney describes many flaws in Sony's original legal motion, and goes on to detail them. He pokes holes in everything from Geohot's alleged relationship with team fail0verflow, all the way to Sony's assertion that California holds jurisdiction over the case. Based on these recent docs, it seems like Sony will have a formidable foe in Geohot and his lawyer.

    Originally Posted by Matt Turner
    For anyone interested in who his attorney is; check it out http://www.ettorneyatlaw.com/

    He won a big case a while ago against the MPAA and RIAA.
    Also surfacing today, was a large collection of previously unreleased documents, recently filed by Sony's lawyers. In these docs, Sony cites such websites as PSX-Scene, PS3News, Slashdot, Twitter, and more, as evidence against Geohot. Many of you may remember this tactic from the original jailbreak cases back in September.

    Download: Sony Legal Docs 1-12-11.zip (6.66 MB)

    UPDATE:

    Sony failed in attempts to get a restraining order on Geohot, to quote @ Geohots Blog: “ As of 2:00 PM EST, 1/14/2011, I am not subject to any TROs“


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    Comments 48 Comments
    1. netham45's Avatar
      netham45 -
      Why would scea not use their best defense first?
    1. Qcthakidd-PSG's Avatar
      Qcthakidd-PSG -
      @GEOHOT ... OMG WE SHOULD ALL SHOW UP WITH OUR PS SHIRTS AND HATS IN FRONT OF THE COURT HOUSE PROTESTING!!! ((WHERE ALL MY LOS ANGELES PS3 gamers AT??))

      HOLLA @ ME Twitter.com/Qcthakidd OR Facebook: Qc Tha Kidd


      ...... SONY WILL NOT WIN!!! many will not win! What every happen to the PS2 case? or the Nintendo Case? or the Xbox case.... This lawyer IS GOING TO SMASH SONY!!!
    1. laz305-PSG's Avatar
      laz305-PSG -
      Quote Originally Posted by itsevilbert View Post
      The (il)legal actions by Sony are just a delay tactic. To slow progress right down, even if it slows the progress of having OtherOS and Homebrew running on a PS3 by 6 months to a year they will have considered it money well spent. Fear and intimidation.

      There are coders who will wait for this to blow over before considering trying to create bafflingly amazingly complex projects for the PS3.
      Totally agree all they will get away with by doing this is to delay hackers from coming out with new tools. I mean if apple didn't try and sue him I don't see why Sony should care. I mean they act like they are going hungry or something.
    1. indecks-PSG's Avatar
      indecks-PSG -
      *yawn*

      Whoever is scared of Sony buttraping them with a lawsuit, I've got the perfect solutin for ya!


      "Homebrew Program X - Written by 'anonymous.'"
    1. douha's Avatar
      douha -
      is there any new news guyz
    1. Xenon-PSG's Avatar
      Xenon-PSG -
      SCEA just loves Courtrooms, sorta a fetish thing i think, they get off on it, not to mention the media attention towards the console advertizing that they failed in there super-secure console ... lots of sales probally come out of it, and you will still get people purchasing games, and alot potentially not, but that goes for every platform.

      never fear, i doub't will see the stop of tools/utils, and homebrew, any one compairee SCEA/SCEJ/SCEE/etc stock/prices of shares? -no mattrer what, Sony is obglicatedd to its shareholders to do whaever it can [though, i think bending over a barrel is not what was meant, thy got a bit too gunghoe' after the leagal advances they had with jailbreak which guess went to there head]

      kudo's to geo for not agreing to there EULA, bing in Canada, vs state has a lot of advantages, even though the laws on somethings can be twisted, if you own a legit copy of software, you can reverse engineer it to be able to make it work on another hardware platform that it isnt supported on [thi leaves a lot of pen holes] , there are a few more as well .. but, the scare tactic and sueing to tie things up, it pretty much takes geo out of picture for doing much in scene , though, doesn't stop any of others, unless they are afraid of sony coming down on them as well..

      and member,

      wll, Sony.. byte me, nibble me a bit, either way FU, wont stop my efforts in doing whats considered legal in Canada on MY hardware.. ;> just like my computer()/workstations/mainframe/network gear,i don't see IBM busting down my door for some of the stuff ive done, after noticing some very interesting similarities between cell blade and ps3 in certain areas... [what would Sony do if someone came out with a emu for the Hitachi notebooks with the 4 Spu's (SpusrEngine in it) [and id hope at leat a nvidia chip in it to top it all off, as ppc validated IP hardware emulation in software available [as long as had enough power on proc, and quad core cpu say, using spurs, ppc, -gee i think ill shut up now lala]

      Go Go' ick thre buts for removal of OtherOS [some reason i can see his $ pay wise going up if he win this one, and a lot of offers..]

      Xen'
    1. joekaraki's Avatar
      joekaraki -
      hey sony what you think your doing !!!!!!!!!!!!
      geohot its a boy 20 years old a GENIUS BOY who hack your super power anhackable security why i ll tell you sony guys why because this man is the man who hack the iphone but apple didint send paper to him to send him to court because its not his fault its there fault he's smarter than them its not his problem its your problem sony your stuff programers ,engeneering ..... problem if this guys is smarter than the big company and the best engeneering in sony so obey to him you listen sony world sham on you to send court paper to a boy has only 20 years old sony wants to fix your problem change your stuff find better programers its your problem why you didnt send psjailbreak to court when they start to buy dongle enable backup games why you didnt shutdown their site why..... Geohot or Master geohot because this boy its your master and all people know that never create a programs to run copy games and he said on his site i dont condom games privacy he create jailbreak for 3.55 but its not runing backup games why ... He knows very well the ps3 master keys and he can created anytime he want but his a man of honor he dont want to because hes not condom privacy .
      Sham on you sony on what you did big company against 20 years old boy ..
      I support you geohot just open donates on your site and ill send you 20,000$ just to cut the snake head ,buy the way i didnt condom copy game also but i respect genius people like george hots.
      You have all my respect genius boy from Joe with love .......
    1. itsevilbert-PSG's Avatar
      itsevilbert-PSG -
      Looks like Sony is Sony's own worst enemy, and nobody else.

      According to http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/stock/information.html
      There are 1,004,584,264 Sony common shares currently in circulation.

      The info below was taken from the following sites:
      http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/q?s=SNE
      http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=SNE
      Code:
      Date                  price    volume moved
      --------------------- -------- ------------
      23rd of December 2010 $35.57   366,100 
      
      27th of December 2010 $35.61   211,800
      28th of December 2010 $35.84   285,700
      29th of December 2010 $35.87   272,700
      30th of December 2010 $35.57   247,100
      31st of December 2010 $35.71   324,800
      
       3rd of January  2011 $36.38   474,400
       4th of January  2011 $36.16   650,900
       5th of January  2011 $36.21   471,100
       6th of January  2011 $36.01   361,100
       7th of January  2011 $36.04   899,500
      
      10th of January  2011 $36.16   384,900
      11th of January  2011 $36.36   520,100
      12th of January  2011 $36.40   490,200
      13th of January  2011 $35.62 1,439,000
      Looking at the above data it is clear that the largest change in stock price was not caused by fail0verflow's talk @ 27c3 (29th), nor by geohot master key (3rd), and not by geohot's custom PUP (10th), but by Sony's idiotic legal action. The biggest effect on the global stockmarkets valuation of Sony was by the legal action. Sony really should issue a TRO against themselves, so as to not cause irreparable harm to themselves.

      A drop in value of $36.40 to $35.62 or 78 cents per share.
      A total drop in the valuation by the stock market of Sony Inc. of $783,575,725.92

      Radiohead - Just
      You do it to yourself, you do
      And that's what really hurts
      Is that you do it to yourself
      Just you and no-one else
      You do it to yourself
      You do it to yourself


      Anyhow overall there was not much of a change between the 23rd and the 13th, $35.57 to $35.62 - if anything the price has increased!

      If Sony had not brought this legal action it looks, from the graphs, like the extra media attention would have increased their share price.
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