Sony Reduces gameSharing Slots

[yes159]

Who really cares about game sharing?

People who have and actively use more than two PS3 consoles probably care about it. But yeah, there arent really THAT many of those people, so it isnt a big deal for most people, i agree. I think that most of these negative comments are people who just complain eventhough they arent affected by it. These people also seem to ignore the positive news that it is now possible to deactivate the system via a PC and that PSP gets 2 additional slots.

[fivee]

Sony makes better hardware than Nintendo, Microsoft, Sega, NEC, SNK, and on and on.

Really? Ah, all these years selling dvd burners that are just NEC drives relabled, and sony actually makes them better?

Playstation isnt dead.

No, its just exausted...even sony's ppl say so "the ps3 can't handle and never will handle cross-game chating due to lack of resorces" meaning - current games max out the resources availabe, and the graphics suck when compared to a current low spec pc

They are phasing out the old and bringing in the new. This is actually good news for gamers. This is the early stage of a new console. Celebrate. We're moving forward

There will not be a PS4 until the japanese economy rebounds. Its the cornerstone for sony, they make a few millions of consoles for sale in Japan, they sell those and use that cash flow to produce the consoles they need to launch in other markets. The reason they dont just make worldwide realeases is they dont have the resources to make (and hold on) the number of consoles required! The disaster in japan alread delayd the new psp, and that was already in production!

[BahumatLord]

Really? Ah, all these years selling dvd burners that are just NEC drives relabled, and sony actually makes them better?



No, its just exausted...even sony's ppl say so "the ps3 can't handle and never will handle cross-game chating due to lack of resorces" meaning - current games max out the resources availabe, and the graphics suck when compared to a current low spec pc




There will not be a PS4 until the japanese economy rebounds. Its the cornerstone for sony, they make a few millions of consoles for sale in Japan, they sell those and use that cash flow to produce the consoles they need to launch in other markets. The reason they dont just make worldwide realeases is they dont have the resources to make (and hold on) the number of consoles required! The disaster in japan alread delayd the new psp, and that was already in production!

Wow.... where to start.
1. I wasn't referring to any specific component. I was referring to the entire product as a whole. Their video game system is better than anything out there. It may just be an opinion, but it's mine and there you go. As far as anything else sony has there hand in there hardware is better than anything else in the same price range whether it be speaker, stereos, or whatever you can think of. Yes, if you decide to compare a BOSE system or any other high end system to an average Sony system then yes, Sony will lose but when you compare similarly priced offers from RCA, Aiwa, and JVC, then Sony holds their own quite well. The same is true for the video game systems. And Sony combined their optical drive department with nec, so what difference does it make who's label is on who's product?

2. You can't compare a PS3 to a current low spec pc because PC hardware updates every couple of months as manufacturing costs go down and technology increases. The PS3 is several years old. For gamers that's like comparing a NES to a SNES or even a N64. But when you compare a PS3 to a 360 or Wii then PS3 kicks their ass hands down.

3. While it's true that the disaster in japan has delayed hardware development for new video game systems, it hasn't stopped anything. There is too much money to be made in the video game industry to let the PS4 or the new PSP (Vita) die. This isn't the first disaster for the Japanese people. They have dealt with earthquakes, tsunamis, and the random attack from Godzilla for centuries. The current disaster is only a temporary setback. I was speaking in terms of a year or two, not a month or two. Video games are a huge part of Japanese society and economy. What better way to help their economy recover than to move forward with their plans.

4. Take a deep breath everyone. This is not a bad thing. It's progress whether you want to believe that or not. I know I'm dating myself but didn't the Genesis' XBand online service do the same thing as far as cutting back on service around the time the Saturn was nearing completion and release? And yes, I realize Sega doesn't make hardware anymore but there was two more consoles after the Genesis so don't use that as an excuse to say Sony's dead.

5. You youngster's today just want everything handed to you. Why, I remember when I was your age and I had my good old trusty Commodore 64. We had to write our own games and even then it was only one stick man hitting a square ball to another stick man. And then we would have to walk 15 miles to school uphill in both directions and we were thankful for the opportunity. Your X-box ain't got nothin' on my Pop-O-Matic Bubble!.... Damn dirty hippies....Get a haircut!.....Sorry, I need to get back on my meds

[ahou]

I'm having a hard time imagining anyone having a legitimate reason for needing their dlc on 5 consoles. There cannot possibly be many people that regularly use 3 different ps3s.

[Molotov]

MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!....

[drackenstein]

I'm having a hard time imagining anyone having a legitimate reason for needing their dlc on 5 consoles. There cannot possibly be many people that regularly use 3 different ps3s.

Agreed. I have two systems (living room and bedroom) and the only reason I can see myself getting another one would be for family in another state and even then it wouldn't matter to me whether they were able to share my games or not. I mean I come from back in the day when if you wanted a game you went to a store (not Gamestop 'cause we didn't have them back then) and buy the game and if someone else wanted that game they either had to borrow it from you or get a copy for themselves. I don't see what the fuss is about here, this is a feature that most people DON'T use and probably didn't even know they had access to. Getting rid of OtherOS was an outrage but this, come on guys.

[PRiME]

Sony is its own worst enemy, thought I am sure its just a select top few CEO's making this devastating moves for the company. It would be a shame if MS was the only major platform to survive (I don't considers Wii systems a major player, its games are for babies)

[Iconoclass]

Guys, Seriously. The reason for this is a New is bcoz we could to buy and share content with friends, up to 5 people, but only now will be almost solely and exclusively for "personal" use as they say, my content and my "backup" for its something goes wrong. In this practical sense that Sony and M $ does provided and squeeze more money out to the end user ¬ ¬. Viva CFW! Long live Kmeaw, Kakarot, Waninkoko, Mathieulth and general sceners.

[Lionheartwolf]

is there still a wait period with activating and deactivating systems? if im not mistaken it takes anywhere between 2 and 7 days for it to update so its not like you can just activate and deactivate over and over.

[CrimsonSoul]

....and in all honesty, I'm guessing the only way anyone will be able to get to that content via PC is to accecpt the Qriocity. Way back whenever when they first changed it because of the ban hammer they started laying down, if you logged in through the PS3 or online via PC, you had to accept the new agreement.

Tighten a leash and once a dog is able to find a way out, it will run away. Sad that Sony is treating their customers like dogs and trying to choke them out at every turning chance they get.

[ahou]

Sony is its own worst enemy, thought I am sure its just a select top few CEO's making this devastating moves for the company. It would be a shame if MS was the only major platform to survive (I don't considers Wii systems a major player, its games are for babies)

Xenoblade is wii only, so your argument is invalid.

And skyward sword in 2 weeks.

And plenty of others. Just because the system is geared more towards casuals does not mean it doesn't have plenty of great games.

Besides, you're an idiot if you think playstation is going away any time soon.

[yes159]

....and in all honesty, I'm guessing the only way anyone will be able to get to that content via PC is to accecpt the Qriocity. Way back whenever when they first changed it because of the ban hammer they started laying down, if you logged in through the PS3 or online via PC, you had to accept the new agreement.

It doesnt matter where you access the content. Even if it is from your PS3 or PC, you still have to agree to the Terms of Service because it is on their network. If you dont want to agree to the ToS, then it is just to avoid their network

Tighten a leash and once a dog is able to find a way out, it will run away. Sad that Sony is treating their customers like dogs and trying to choke them out at every turning chance they get.

Dogs are usually threated very nice actually hehe But just wondering, do you concider giving people the ability to activate and deactivate the system via PC (which is great in case the console dies) and give two extra slots on the PSP as chocking the consumers?

[PHPMyPSX]

i'm surprised it wasn't put in place earlier. no one's supposed to share his games ad let 5 people play them for free

[yes159]

I agree. The first time i heard about that it was possible to share the games with 5 people, no matter which PS3 they used, it was a big surprise to me that this was actually possible. I could understand if it was like 1 or 2 because some people do use multiply PS3 around the house. But 5, that surprised me.

[korn16ftl]

Sony Computer Entertainment plans to provide a new PlayStation Network account management website where users will be able to deactivate particular devices attached to their PlayStation Network account via their PC.

sounds like a semi fair trade to me...u can have ure shit activated on as many systems as you want PROVIDED they dont connect to the internet AFTER deactivating them by the USER which was NEVER an option before....takes care of the 1 time license reset that sony keeps trying to push on us any how.....wonder if they are trying to be legal this time......NAH not them morons

[fivee]

Wow.... where to start.
1. I wasn't referring to any specific component. I was referring to the entire product as a whole. Their video game system is better than anything out there. It may just be an opinion, but it's mine and there you go. As far as anything else sony has there hand in there hardware is better than anything else in the same price range whether it be speaker, stereos, or whatever you can think of. (...)


2. You can't compare a PS3 to a current low spec pc because PC hardware (...). The PS3 is several years old. (...). But when you compare a PS3 to a 360 or Wii then PS3 kicks their ass hands down.

3. While it's true that the disaster in japan has delayed hardware development for new video game systems, it hasn't stopped anything. (...)

5. You youngster's today just want everything handed to you. Why, I remember when I was your age and I had my good old trusty Commodore 64. We had to write our own games and even then it was only one stick man hitting a square ball to another stick man. And then we would have to walk 15 miles to school uphill in both directions and we were thankful for the opportunity. Your X-box ain't got nothin' on my Pop-O-Matic Bubble!.... Damn dirty hippies....Get a haircut!.....Sorry, I need to get back on my meds

1. Exactly my point, you where speaking of their entire range of products, and you descrived them as better, i much prefer the "olds their own", i disagree with "better than anything in the same price range", car stereos for one, for mid/high range i find pionner products much better for similar prices.

2 a) Yes i can, one they are both for sale now, the ps3 being old now is no escuse, the games are being realese to both systems. You can go to a store and buy a ps3, or a low end pc, and the low end pc will have better graphics.
B) Again, i disagree. I find that cross platform games run very similar in both ps3 and xbox360. example: regardless of the so called superiority of the ps3, they both run the games at 720p, and even then they exaust the ps3 resources. Its not about not wanting to add the higher resolutuions textures, they have those for the pcs! The ps3 simply cannot handle it

c) The wii was never about cool graphics (though some games surpised me, specially for those that "still" only have SD in their old tvs). Its a diferent form of gaming, and unlike sony, nintendo delivered what they intended! And they where rewarded with millions in sales, both in systems has in games, regardless of the console being pretty much allways hacked...

3. I didnt say it stoped anythin, i do belive however that you will not see a ps4 until microsoft forces sony by realeasing a new console. With the world crisis, and cuts being made in most european coutrys, the us, japan using all they have to rebild and the need to solve the energetic dificultys. The world market isnt really ready to absorve a new generation of consoles. Again the wii u is aimed to diferent gamers.

5. My first gaming rig was a spectrum 128k, a real top of the line with the tape deck already built in! =P and i've lived with it till i've bougt one of the firt pentium, many MANY years latter.

[CrimsonSoul]

It doesnt matter where you access the content. Even if it is from your PS3 or PC, you still have to agree to the Terms of Service because it is on their network. If you dont want to agree to the ToS, then it is just to avoid their network

I have no idea why you basically said what I said, but changed the wording around?

Dogs are usually threated very nice actually hehe But just wondering, do you concider giving people the ability to activate and deactivate the system via PC (which is great in case the console dies) and give two extra slots on the PSP as chocking the consumers?

I think taking the five consoles down to two is choking the consumer out of something they were use to. Not sure what article you read, but what two extra slots are PSP users gaining??

For game content purchased after November 18, 2011, a new policy will apply and the number of devices that can be activated will be as follows:

PS3: Users will be able to play the game on up to 2 activated PS3 systems.
PSP: Users will be able to play the game on up to 2 activated PSP systems.

Only two PSP activated, only two PS3 activated. Where's this extra slots you're referring to?

Forbid someone hacks your account, changes your email and password, activates their PS3/PSP, then deactivates your system off the account. A person is screwed! Considering how secure PSN has been this past year, one can only imagine the how well this is going to turn out within the next few months.

i'm surprised it wasn't put in place earlier. no one's supposed to share his games ad let 5 people play them for free

According to Sony, no one is suppose to hack/circumvent their intellectual property, but it's been done.
My question to you is, why shouldn't people be allowed to share their games?

[ahou]

I think taking the five consoles down to two is choking the consumer out of something they were use to. Not sure what article you read, but what two extra slots are PSP users gaining??

Really? The customers were used to just pirating shit from them instead of paying for it, so when sony tries to put a stop to that, they are "choking the customers"? Seriously?

My question to you is, why shouldn't people be allowed to share their games?

They should be able to, but international copyright law says no.

they both run the games at 720p

There's more to it than resolution.

[CrimsonSoul]

Really? The customers were used to just pirating shit from them instead of paying for it, so when sony tries to put a stop to that, they are "choking the customers"? Seriously?

Let me guess, you just got back from your sabbatical?

Honestly, if you want to talk about pirating, take it elsewhere! That word is overly thrown when it comes to anything software/video game related, and I honestly don't think the ones using it know the meaning. It is called "Game Sharing", not "Game Pirating". I'm sure they knew and had in mind what they were wanting to do with this.

Step off your soap box and save the preaching about pirating for someone who really cares.

[yes159]

I have no idea why you basically said what I said, but changed the wording around?

Sorry, i misread. I thought you said that you only had to accept the ToS when accessing PSN through PC, so i just pointed out that it was the same if you did it through your PS3 as well. But i see now that you mention the PS3 as well, not just the PC as i first thought.

I think taking the five consoles down to two is choking the consumer out of something they were use to. Not sure what article you read, but what two extra slots are PSP users gaining??

Only two PSP activated, only two PS3 activated. Where's this extra slots you're referring to?

Technically it is still possible to share it on more than 2 systems i think? The only difference is that you need to deactivate some systems if you want to share it on three PS3s or more.

I dont have any statistics on this, but i dont think that the general consumer are used to sharing their games like this. Someone does it though, but i dont think that the game sharing was ment for people to share the games with their friends. I think that it is ment to be there in case someone has several of units for their own use. I dont think that many people actively use three PS3s or more. That is why i was surprised to learn years ago that it actually worked on upto 5 systems.

I think it is also worth mentioning that this wont be retro-active, meaning that it will only be applied to games that are bought from November 18th. Games that were bought before this date can still be shared on upto 5 systems as far as i know.

I must have misread the stuff regarding PSP as well, sorry

Forbid someone hacks your account, changes your email and password, activates their PS3/PSP, then deactivates your system off the account. A person is screwed! Considering how secure PSN has been this past year, one can only imagine the how well this is going to turn out within the next few months.

I wonder how it will work to activate and deactivate something via a PC. There might be some extra security measures regarding this process, but i'm sure that we will learn more about it in the upcoming weeks