My dvdr freezes after boots

[nmnguy]

My dvd-r and dvd boots up fine but freezes on the black screen everytime. It happens when I use the game shark. Original games work fine without it and cdrs' work fine with the it.

I have:
v4 ps2
nova chip
Game Shark 2.0
Used a Memorex dvd-r
pioneer burner.

[ps2guy]

ever tryed cleaning your laser?????

pull it apart and check

cheers:lol: :lol: :lol:

[nmnguy]

How do u clean it without messing it up? What about the laser cleaner cd

[SledDog]

Originally posted by nmnguy
My dvd-r and dvd boots up fine but freezes on the black screen everytime. It happens when I use the game shark. Original games work fine without it and cdrs' work fine with the it.

I have:
v4 ps2
nova chip
Game Shark 2.0
Used a Memorex dvd-r
pioneer burner.

Media plays a critical role and Memorex DVD-Rs are known to be hit or miss with some machines. I'd suggest trying another burn at 2x with a Verbatim, Pioneer, TDK, or Apple and see how it goes. Using a Blaze cleaning disc is also a very good suggestion, as it doesn't take much in the way of dust, pet dander, cigarette smoke, etc to mess up the laser beam...

[charlie_ps2]

Maybe this thread will help.

http://www.ps2newz.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=101

[nmnguy]

But how why wont my original Finaly Fantasy X boot when i use a game shark with it. Its not a DVD-r so it should boot fine.

[ps2guy]

so if its original game when why are you using gs????
if thats correct

last i checked originals booted on there own??

cheers:lol: :lol: :lol:

[SledDog]

Originally posted by ps2guy
so if its original game when why are you using gs????
if thats correct

last i checked originals booted on there own??

cheers:lol: :lol: :lol:

Uh... maybe because it's an RPG and it'd be nice to have an infinite amount of money to buy the stuff you need like weapons and supplies without spending 20 hours in mindless battles just to work up the cash...?

nmnguy - clean the laser with a Blaze disk a few times and/or clean the DVD.

BTW, are you SURE you have the codes entered correctly...? A game won't start if you've accidently modified the wrong area of code... :)

[nmnguy]

I've used the blazing cleaner and yes i confess, i was cheating. Its not the wrong code, because i've tried it without codes to see if it works. Maybe its the chip thats at fault.

[DeMOnS1971]

Havent got that game so cant be sure but is it possilbe that it checks for the cart and refuses to boot, try removing the cart and then booting.

With DVD-R copies the main reason for booting after swap and then going to a black screen is that the boot disk does not have a larger TOC size than the copy (bad media either doesnt boot to black screen in first place or badly skips video sequences).

For DVD-R booting you really need Dead or Alive, Metal Gear Solid or GTA III as these games are really big and therefore will boot must things, and as a bonus most of these are now old enough to be cheap second hand.

[archonixm]

Well, im using Novachip/Origa too..
SOmetime need to try 2-3 time to boot dvdr.
that is because the lens having a hard time reading the dvdr
so actually u need to put the dvdr around 1 min-2 min in it and then u press x...actually depend on the quality..i have to put my FF X Int. disc around 1 min to get it to boot properly..or it just hang at the black screen..
but if im using a great quality dvdr...it just around 5 sec...
....i think the lens trying to read the dvd toc ...and having a hard time reading it!!!

[nmnguy]

Thanks but i cant get it to work. I let it stand for like 1 to 30 min and then i press x....black screen of death...I tried my GTA3 also and it doesnt work. .. it's hopeless... thanks anyways archonixm

[DeMOnS1971]

It probably is your laser on its way out then. Its common knowlege in the Audio repair industry that $ony couldnt make a decent laser if their whole business depended on it.

You only have to look at early PSX's to realise this ;) Situation is not helpd by forcing it to work harder by using cheap (read crap) CD-R and DVD-R media.

A friend of mine was an Aiwa engeineer and he estimated that 75% of all Late 90's Aiwa units were returned under warranty at least once for replacement laser (we assumed the other 25% didnt get much use so failed out of warry).

Ill give you one guess who Aiwa outsourced the laser manufacturing to.

Correct. $ony.

Good luck in finding a replacement unit.

[RAISTLIN]

I have to agree with DeMOns--your laser may be on it's last leg. I'm not sure if it's practicle with the PS2 or not-- I know it can be done, just not sure how--you may be able to salvage a little extra life if you refocus the laser a bit. Just a LITTLE tweaking so you don't screw up your ability to read original CD's and DVD's.

I had an old Kenwood CD Changer--one of the first to use the 5-disk magazine that could be used in both the home and car changers. It started having trouble reading high quality burned media, then eventually originals. I refocused the beam a bit, and it revived it to where it read originals fine, burns 50/50. It didn't last much longer, but it got me through the summer until I could afford a replacement.

I know there have been some posts about this on the other forums, just can't remember where. May have been GameCopyWorld ( www.fileforums.com ), not sure.

Good Luck!

Raist

[nmnguy]

I guess you guys are rite.... ill just sell it and get a new one with a better modchip......

[kastor]

i can see the laser dying...but i don't think its a super common problem for the laser to die. I had my ps-one for 3 years and i beat it up good and its still kickin, the culprit seems to be people who try to cut corners on media, and thats what seems to kill the laser. High Reflectivity media is a must if you want to prolong life expectancy. Just a thought i just bought a premodded Magic 2 ps2 and I use TDK and i bet it will last the duration of my time using it till ps3 hits..peace

[DeMOnS1971]

I think that using good quality media will help perlong the lifespan of the laser but this is only a contributing factor, even if you played nothing but orginals how long your laser would last would still be a bit of a gamble.

I know of several v3 and v4 consoles that have not been chipped and have never even been shown a CD-R that are now failing. To me thats NOT a great lifespan.

As for lifespans of PSX's and PS-Ones the 1xxx seris was truely awful and the 5xxx didnt fair too much better (despite $ony reputidly re-designing the lasers). 7 and 9 series machines and PS-One's seem to be much better, although I have no really subjective data to back this up.

For PS2 owners Lik-Sang (http://www.lik-sang.com) are selling replacemant laser lens units in their Repairs section. They are for the 'small eye' model of ps2. They are also selling most types of replacement ribbon cable.

For PSX owners lik sang have got replacement laser spindles to combat the other design flaw of PSX's, disintigration of the centre disk platter.

Hope this helps someone.
Good luck