Ps3 Isos Now Playable!!!!! =D

[ken9]

update!!!!!!!!!!!

FULL AUTO 2-BATTLELINES has been leaked by PDX...and along with a interesting nfo file...

| P * A * R * A * D * O * X |
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| \__\\\ \ . R E L E A S E I N F O R M A T I O N . / ///__/ |
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| > Full Auto 2 Battlelines (c) SEGA < |
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| cOMPANY : SEGA | rELEASE DATE : 18 Jan 2007 |
| sYSTEM : PlayStation 3 | sIZE : 35 x 100mb |
| tYPE : Car Combat | vIDEO MODE : NTSC/USA |
| sUPPLIER : Huey Lewis | cRACKER : PARADOGS |
| mEDIA : BLU-RAY | pLAYABLE : Like your GF ;) |


PDX has released need for speed carbon with a nfo file back in demember tat i missed.... seems like they are very serious or they are kidding, lol

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| > Need For Speed Carbon (c) EA Games < |
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| cOMPANY : EA Games | rELEASE DATE : 03 Dec 2006 |
| sYSTEM : PlayStation 3 | sIZE : 118 x 100mb |
| tYPE : Driving | vIDEO MODE : NTSC/USA |
| sUPPLIER : Huey Lewis | cRACKER : The Egg |
| mEDIA : BLU-RAY | pLAYABLE : Soon |
|_________________________________________________ _________________________|

straight from QJ


"Can a backup be played on the PS3? Yes, says Paradox, an Internet release group. Apparently, there's an exploit. Here's what's making the rounds on the Internet:

| cOMPANY : SCEI | rELEASE DATE : 27 Dec 2006 |
| sYSTEM : PlayStation 3 | sIZE : 120 x 100mb |
| tYPE : Racing | vIDEO MODE : NTSC/JAP |
| sUPPLIER : Huey Lewis | cRACKER : Wireless B/G? |
| mEDIA : BLU-RAY | pLAYABLE : Yes they are |

| sPECIAL nOTE: |
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| Happy new year to all members who helped in the past and present! |
| And a question to all, is there a bug in the system software from |
| the playStation 3(R) Yes there is Nothing to add more.. |

What does this mean? Paradox has released a game image (ISO) of Motorstorm (Japanese) and in the NFO file, they say the game image is playable. And that's not the only thing that's making the hacks-and-exploits community smile: earlier, Paradox also said that the first sectors from a PS3 image (sector 0 to 20) are special and may be the decryption keys for the executables.

We ask the same question as the news source for this article: "Could the PS3 be exploited already?" Is that good news or bad news - I mean, it's good news for a lot of gamers, but is that good news for Sony? What's going to happen next?"

qj.net/PS3-ISO-backup-pla...g/49/aid/77633

edit: heres the link to all the files in the pack paradox released except for teh iso ps3xpand.com/press/wp-content/uploads/File/MotorStorm_NFO_SFV_PAR2.zip
includes the nfo, and sfv files and there are about 99 parts to the iso

[gelato]

That is awesome for gamers but I was hoping it would be a while before backups were playable. That way Sony can make a profit and everyone gets what they want.

[xiaNaix]

Paradox have no intention of releasing that info, as it could easily be patched in firmware by Sony.

[ken9]

o crap so this is liek leaking out info tat benifits sony but not us...tat sucks...so close lol

[AngryGir]

Why is it a bad thing? If you can play back ups on the PS3 I might seriously consider buying one when one is available to purchase. If back ups are not playable today on the PS3 I might buy one in 2 -3 years when the hardware is more reliable and I will be able to play back ups on the PS3. I might also buy a Wii while I wait and play my hundreds of PS2 games while I wait. So what is the difference besides that I would have a Wii and would have to wait a few years for an improved hardware product?

Perhaps you’re ready to reply that Sony loses money selling hardware and makes it up on game sales and accessories. If that is your position then my position is that I don't care. Is Nintendo losing money selling the Wii hardware? In business if you use the wrong model to sell your product you risk losing money; nobody but me cries if I run my business into the ground, and it is nobody's fault for my poor business practices other than myself. If you feel bad for Sony then buy their shares and drive the stock price up, but don't cry about the customer not doing what Sony wants them to do. Cry about console companies not doing what consumers are asking for because the console makers believe they know better than their customers.

So to recap Sony would lose market share to Nintendo (X-box 360 is looking great for back ups too) if back ups are not available to play on the PS3 in the near future. Sony would lose more money selling me a console today than 2-3 years from now because the technology would be more standardized, production methods will improve, and there will be a greater consumer demand because the R&D costs can be shared on the returns of a greater section of consumers.

But if I have to wait to be motivated enough to buy the PS3 they will likely lose people like me to the Nintendo Wii because of the lower price and the innovative controller and hopefully innovative games. Having less time to enjoy the useful working life of the PS3 if I buy 2-3 years from now means I will be less likely to buy costly accessories; sales of accessories support subsidizing the sales at a loss of the console systems. I have an eyetoy, 4 PS2 controllers, 1 arcade joystick game pad, 1 racing wheel system, 2 dance pads, 1 guitar hero controller, and I found myself seriously considering buying a package of two microphones for the SingStar games because I use my PS2. Luckily I found myself remembering that I don't sing much and hate K-bars (what they call karaoke bars in Asia) so I put the microphones back before I made it to the Wal-mart check-out (Wal-mart is in Asia too).

I think the console makers should really start paying attention to sites like ps2-scene. For no cost to the console makers they have access to marketing information on what their core gaming consumer wants. They can even see these wants become reality thanks to the efforts of the homebrew makers. In business we pay top dollar for this kind of detailed information but when it is freely available it seems the big corporations have little interest in it. Maybe Nintendo is different and is listening to what their consumer wants because they are the only system I know of that plans to emulate other systems and sell roms of early console system games to play on their new system. It may have only taken 10 years for Nintendo to offer for a fee what homebrew developers have been offering for free on both consoles and PC's, but that is more than Microsoft or Sony is doing. Nintendo might just see a new rise to power of Super Mario. I am not saying Nintendo might return to glory because of pretty graphics or multi-function applications such as emails, blu-ray and HD playback, or even access to my computer, but because Nintendo seems to be concerned with making something fun cheap, and by using the hard work of homebrewers to supply wants that gamers have always had, games.

I am all for playing back-ups on the PS3, and not just because I am too cheap to pay $80 per game. I am for back-ups on the PS3 because it might force Sony to rethink their marketing campaigns such as selling the console at a loss, ignoring the wishes of their end users, and it might encourage enough consumers to buy the PS3 to give Sony a solid consumer base before they lose out to Nintendo and their economically priced Wii.

[2005]

Most people don't have the balls to be soldering mods into a 200-300 dollar console, who in their right mind would think these same majority of the people who make up the gaming community would do something like that to a 500-600 dollar console? Their investments go further then that $500-600 dollars though... tax and a game can bring that figure up close to 200 dollars.

Not having playable backups will not be the death of the PS3.

[AngryGir]

Not being able to play back-ups won't be the death of the ps3 but it might be the death of the ps4, or even the ps5. If there is not a predictably large enough market share to support profits then no corporation will heavily invest. The largest investment cost of research and development of the PS3 is already invested and Sony is hoping for a return on their investment. If the investment of the PS3 does not show a profit it is less likely that there will be enough market data to support investment in a PS4 using the same model. Maybe my business education allows me to see things that those without it might miss so I will try to choose smaller words and write more clearly.

Not being able to play back-ups on the PS3 will lose Sony market share. By being at a competitive disadvantage to Nintendo based on price, and at a disadvantage to Microsoft due to release times, Sony cannot afford to lose more market share if it wishes to remain #1. Being #1 console is more than just something you can boast about; being #1 means marketing and development strategies. If you can predict that you will sell more consoles than any other console system you can use that to your advantage to make the barrier to entry higher to reduce future competition and to limit the profits of your existing competitors. You can use your position as #1 to ingrain your product name into the consumers so they know and trust your products over the competition. Being #1 allows you to market new products to your existing consumers because they are already receptive to at least one of your products. Being #1 has significant advantages.

If you know more than me about business then I strongly encourage you to start your own company. I have a paper office in Hong Kong and manufacture products for foreign clients in mainland China. What do you do?

[masr1979]

Well I might be crazy, but I seem to remember hearing that TG16, Sega and MSX games where going to be eventually be downloadable for the ps3. If you ask me this is not good at all, if game devs don't make a profit on their games they will make less and less games for the ps3, which means if you have bought a ps3 or are planning on buying one you might not see all the games you were waiting for, and so those $600 you spent on your system was a waste of money.

I don't particularly care for sony as a company, but I do care about the competition they bring to the console business. I wouldn't want any of the 3 companies to go the way of Sega, since competition is and will always be in our best interest. You don't have to feel sorry for sony, but how can you seriously think that and exploitable ps3 is in sony's best interest? Sure if they sell more consoles then eventually manufacturing cost will drop, but no matter how much they drop they will never make up what they lost unless the software sales are there.

Piracy is never a good thing for a console, look at the psp a high &#37; of psp systems are running homebrew/isos, mine included, and do you think that helps sony? look at the psp software sales, pretty bad, and plus they're in constant tug-o-war with the homebrew community, I don't think they want the same scenario for the ps3, since their efforts means money and time wasted on that instead of something else.

As you said you don't care about any of that, but don't try to say that this would help sony in some way, because it won't. I do agree that they need to listen to consumers more and that they should read forums like this one instead of waisting money on those idiotic focus groups since on here they will get true opinions on the questions they have. If it doesn't go to well for sony this time around I hope they realize their mistakes for the next time, Nintendo came back after 2 arguably failed consoles, and their "we can do no wrong" attitude is what probably caused these, so sony won't be the first nor the last company to get "bigshot-aitis"

Being #1 is really a double edged sword, most of sony's mistakes where made because they were #1, "hey we are #1 let's make this console an all in one media center, sure it will be expensive, but hey we're #1 people will still buy it". Sony's one and only solution IMO is to hunt down exclusives, and get some good games on the system ASAP, but it's true maybe your business education is just so beyond me that I can't comprehend your arguments. To me having all that market share, selling consoles that I will be loosing money on can never be a good thing, and I seriously doubt that they will make a profit on hardware sales anytime soon if at all.

[AngryGir]

Let's watch Nintendo and see if the profits from the sales of the Wii console prove me right or wrong. The model is wrong in my opinion not the customer. Every time I hear a business start blaming the customers I expect that business to fail.

PSP is a handheld device. Handheld devices are a small niche market in the console gaming market. When the size of your market shrinks it changes the business strategies required to dominate a market. So what is applicable to the PSP is not transferable to the PS3. Additionally the PSP was priced significantly higher than the competition. If the market demand is significant then profits will be made. If the market demand is less than adequate to support the business strategy then it becomes unprofitable to continue to operate in a manner that loses money so investment is reallocated to areas that are deemed profitable. The PSP continues to produce games but no longer produces PSP ready movies because of the profit motive, or maybe you believe production was halted because of piracy?

Piracy is not a significant factor in any console system I am aware of in determining if the system is profitable or not. For example consider the PS2 and the introduction of Hard Drive Loader. Hard Drive Loader is probably the ultimate program for PS2 gaming piracy. Based on the point of view that this piracy reduces the profits of Sony I have to ask for some evidence that this is the case. Can you show me any data to support that point of view? Maybe a sales chart that shows an increase in sales of games in relation to the increase of PS2 units sold, and then a noticeable decline in game sales after the introduction of Hard Drive Loader? If you can't provide this evidence then in the nicest possible way I encourage you to STFU and listen to those of us that have the education to back up what we are saying with facts, not opinions and spin we heard from corporations.

but it's true maybe your business education is just so beyond me that I can't comprehend your arguments.


At least we agree on one point.

[masr1979]

My your are just so humble about your business education LOL, you know sometimes people make things that are really simple really complicated. I fail to see were I'm saying the consumer is wrong or where I'm defending sony's "model" (WOW I feel like I too have a business ed. now), sony have made a lot of mistakes, and yes it is their fault, exactly how that will turn piracy into any sort of profit only you and the other "analyst" of the market know.

So you say that the psp example doesn't go with the ps3, why is the reason nintendo has dominated the handheld market??? is it because they have a nice business plan, or because they know what portable gaming really is about? sony has made a rather nice machine with the psp, but it's not very portable gaming friendly, unlike the ds, the ds has short puzzle like games that you can start playing and stop playing and continue again pretty easily, the psp on the other hand has the horrible load times, not good when your on the go, and the games are games suited for playing on your home console, since you need to play them for some time to get into the game, that's my video game consumer opinion.

The PSP umd movies are not selling because of the price tag they had, if they would have been cheaper or more feature packed then they would have probably sold well, though I can't see myself watching a movie on my psp. LOL piracy kill umd movies, that's funny, who the hell would pirate a umd movie they weren't even worth the hassle. AS businessy as you want to sound the plain and simple truth is that the psp is loosing to the ds because of the games, just as the ps2 beat the xbox because of the games, or was it because sony allowed HDL? well the xbox got hacked just like the ps2 and was much more hacker friendly why didn't it sell better then the ps2?

You talk about facts, well show me the facts that support your arguments then, show me the rise in sales after the ps2 was hacked, or that it didn't affect sales, and no your business education isn't a fact, right now we are both guessers as to what will happen. Maybe your an educated guesser compared to me, but just like all those analyst that make me laugh with their funny predictions, you are just guessing.

I'll give you a piece of advice, don't underestimate people or situations, over-confidence isn't a good thing, and education doesn't always make people wise, intelligent yes sure it does, but wise enough to apply that intelligence? not always.

I'm not trying to convert you to my way of thinking, but by both of your replies I get the feeling that you don't even consider the possibility that my point of view might be right, so this argument is pretty much gonna go nowhere since all I'm saying is that sony needs better games to sell more consoles while you are calculating the speed of light times PI, divided by the amount of people that bought a ps2 after HDL, multiplied by the radius of a DVD disk.

To finish up one of my favorite quotes "All I only know is that I know nothing"... my other favorite one is "ignorance is bliss" so go figure :D

-edit- Oh I almost forgot, we are talking about profit right, so in other words if you do find those facts show me that the ps2 was more profitable because of HDL.

[AngryGir]

Nintendo has dominated the handheld market because they sell at a low price point and because they have held the largest market share longer than any present competitor. Sony decided to produce a premium featured product with a premium price tag. Sony evidently is so sure of its decisions that it is not even considering the market choices being made by consumers today. Wal-mart for example is dominating retail markets because they sell at a low price with little frills. Because you’re American I will put this in terms even you can understand. In Paris you pay a premium price for a product because the consumer is paying for the increase in service as well as the product. So if you want to pay a premium price for extra features you may or may not be interested in having then I encourage you to move to France. Maybe you can explain to the French about Freedom Fries and how piracy is killing consoles.

Who would hack a UMD movie you asked and I considered that. As I have seen zero warez of UMD movies I have to respond with the answer of nobody. But I think that proves my point more than it does yours. People try to share something they deem valuable. Games for example are not just shared, they spawn spin off industries. There are game review websites and magazines, TV shows on gaming for those that can't be bothered to read, and websites offering everything from game reviews to how to hack the console you paid for. Clearly consumers value games and don't value UMD movies for the PSP. So what is the logic in investing multiple millions in UMD movie development, industry production, and advertisement if the consumer doesn't even value it? Remember that the end goal of any company is to make profit so these investment costs need to be recovered so the unprofitable UMD sales would cause the costs of the PSP and PSP related products to increase. A higher cost will reduce the amount of consumers willing to pay x amount to own such a device because they do not value the product enough to justify spending that amount.

The X-box was more hacker friendly you said, so why did it not out sell Sony you asked. Market domination was the first answer that came to mind. Sony has sold consoles for longer than Microsoft and has gained a user base and an impressive library of games. Microsoft was seeking to establish a market share so it had no consumer base and zero games in the library. It is my theory that Microsoft benefited from an increased market share because of piracy. In my belief many X-box users only bought the console because they could play pirated games more easily than they could on the PS2 at that time. If you are considering attacking me for stating it is my theory, then I would like you to consider a theory that the world is not flat but rather round. The world is round theory seems to be holding it’s own.

One thing life has taught me is not to underestimate people. But try to remember I am a person too and you might be severely underestimating me by continually arguing a point I believe you lost a few posts ago. Instead of considering my point that piracy could be used to benefit an industry by encouraging consumer training, product identification, and raises the barrier to entry into this market and therefore insulating the console producers from a new console producer because there is not enough profit motive to enter. "[E]ducation doesn't always make people wise, intelligent yes sure it does, but wise enough to apply that intelligence? not always." Clearly being without education does not increase the likelihood of being wise. Your sentence composition is horrible and your arguments are not based on logic you can defend but rather they seem to be based on the arguments of others. Often quoting respected sources leads to credibility but in your case you have chosen to repeat corporate spin. Based on your sentence structure and your arguments I would be very surprised if you have any college or university education. But on the positive many trade schools accept a G.E.D. diploma for an entrance requirement.

And yes I don't need to consider what you say because you repeat arguments that piracy is bad and that piracy is killing the industry. Isn't that the same argument that was made when Nintendo was upset about the unauthorized mega cartridges packed with bootleg games? Strange that Nintendo is still with us if piracy kills consoles.

Since you have clarified your position to state that Sony needs to sell better games to sell more consoles and attacked my credibility by stating I make things too complicated to understand allow me to retort. I tried my best to make a complicated matter simple, and I feel no shame that you cannot understand it. The failure to understand seems to be your failing not mine. And I do not feel that my inability to dumb-down my argument to a level you can understand is an indicator that something is wrong with me; instead I have to question why it is so complicated to you? Did your mother drink excessively while she was pregnant with you? Do your facial features include a flattened midface, a thin upper lip, an indistinct/absent philtrum, and short eye slits? If the answer is yes then blame your mother for giving birth to an idiot. If the answer is no then you can't even blame your mother for giving birth to you.

One of my favorite quotes is from something I said. "Why choose mediocrity when you can choose greatness." Your quotes seem to encourage knowing as little as possible, while mine encourages aspiring to be better than those around us. I would point out in detail that our quotes reflect our own distinctive point of view on life, and that yours is lacking when contrasted with my own but I am afraid of making it too complicated for someone that so strongly believes ignorance is bliss, so I will just call you an idiot again as not to make it too complicated for you.

Why should I do the leg work for you when I asked for evidence first? Are you my girlfriend? Are you planning to STFU and please me with your mouth? Or maybe you want to be my girlfriend, so you are acting like a bitch so I will think of you as one? Sony is required to release the sales figures to the shareholders in quarterly reports so this information should be easily obtained as it is a matter of public record. Sony will probably even mail you these sales figures if you request them. And no I will not do that for you because I believe in training the handicapped in our society to live an independent life whenever possible. And since you are capable of editing a post you already made I feel confident that you’re not so retarded that you cannot learn how to request this publicly available information without my help.

Enjoy Paris you special guy.

[kam187]

ANGRYGIR YOU PIRATERER, billionaire company like sony will not be bothered or lose the race just cuzz of some 1 pirate canidian.SONY DESPITE ALL ODDS ON ALL CONSOLES MANAGE TO MAKE LOTS OF PROFITS AS WHEN IT KICKS IN PROPERLY THEN YOULL SEE.AT THE MO WHAT U R SEEING IN US PS3 SAGA IS JUST LIKE 300000 UNITS SOLD SO SONY CANT DO MUCH ABOUT THAT YET OTHER THEN TO BRING MORE OUT BUT LIKE I SED LIKE IV WITNESSED ON PS1,PS2 IS THAT WHEN THEY SELL MILLIONS THEY REALLY KICK IT IN.ITS A VERY SLOW NEXT GEN MOMENT FOR PS3 BECUZZ ITS JUST COME OUT AND ALL THE MAIN HOMEBREW DEVELOPERS PROBS HAVNT GOT IT YET....SONY HAVE DONE EVERYTHING RIGHT ITS BANG ON FOR THEM WHY SHOULD THEY LISTEN TO PIRATERS LIKE ANGRYGIR SO WHAT IF YOU CANT PLAY BACKUPS AND DO BUY IT IN 2-3YRS TIME YOULL MISS OUT ON GAMES.THE ONLY THING SONY NEEDS FROM ITS PEOPLE LIKE ME AND YOU IS THAT PLEASE SONY GIVE US A BEAST OF A CONSOLE AS YOU DIDNT WIT PS2 AND PLEASE GIVE US BAD ASS GAMES FROM ALL COMPANIES WHAT ELSE DOES SONY WANT FROM THIS SITE IM SURE THERE CODERS KNOW BOUT THIS SITE AND ITS MISSIONS,PUT IT LIKE THIS SONY AND MICROSOFT R LIKE IN THE SPACE TECHNOLOGY RACE COMPETEING FOR THE UTMOST NINTENDO DONT WANT THAT CUZZ THEY GO BUST SO THEY SETTLING IN THE PUBLIC TRANSPORT RACE THEY LIKE CARS AND BUSES CATOGORY

[Perseid]

Most gamers don't pirate. Very few people are interested in modchips or supercards or devhook. The success of a system simply lies in which system has more good games. The DS has more good games than the PSP. The PS2 had more good games than the competition. Right now the 360 has more good games than the competition. Will that change? Maybe.

But piracy is not a deciding factor.

[AngryGir]

PUT IT LIKE THIS SONY AND MICROSOFT R LIKE IN THE SPACE TECHNOLOGY RACE COMPETEING FOR THE UTMOST NINTENDO DONT WANT THAT CUZZ THEY GO BUST SO THEY SETTLING IN THE PUBLIC TRANSPORT RACE THEY LIKE CARS AND BUSES CATOGORY

Damn that was hard to read. One more special post from a special person. What vehicles are most commonly used by the largest market share? Does the average consumer fly to work in a space ship or drive to work in a car or a bus? If you continue to post replies to my posts with poor spelling, grammar, and in all uppercase letters I will have no problem calling you an idiot too. Then again I am all for saving time; man you are an idiot.

[masr1979]

Hmmmm! I rather still like my quotes, and for your information "I only know that I know nothing" means that I'm always trying to learn new things..... but that's not really true I just think it sound cool :D oh and sorry about my sentence structure. I know this will sound perfectly believable to you, but I have never attended school in the US, I was born in the Dominican Republic and studied there. I learned english at a pretty early age, and although I can speak pretty well without much though, in order for me to be grammatically correct takes more effort then necessary, at least to post in public forums.

My mom doesn't drink now or ever, the whole face and looks thing ummmm no, that doesn't apply either... well basically as could be expected you know nothing of me or my life. I can say this, I can have pride in the fact that I am civilized enough to argue with someone without needing to insult them just because they don't see things my way. Oh and the education/wise thing, as I said it's not always the case. I only pointed out the possibility of the 2 not going hand in hand, but most definitely and education does help, so YAY we agree on something... I still fail to see the "corporate spin" your talking about, I don't remember sony ever saying that they needed good games to sell, they are apparently betting on the all-in-one aspect of the ps3 to make sells.

As far as not getting the proof, if you don't have to get it, I don't need to bother with it either. I'm a tolerant guy, so if someone doesn't see things the way I see them I do this really weird thing where I just agree to disagree with the person *GASP* I know... different ideas amongst different people who would have thought that existed.

Anyways as I said I'm no analyst like you, but it's pretty clear to me that nintendo has never sold a console at a loss, unlike sony and ms who always do, and that's why I they have stayed in the game and have been able to keep going even after the 64, and the gamecube. In fact, if I was a betting man, I would bet that even though nintendo I think did the worst in both of those generations, they still made more profit then the other companies. That however, is not really what I'm getting at. Plain and simply, I don't think that ps3s sold to pirates is a good thing for sony, sure because of piracy they can maybe sell more consoles, I know the psp has, but that doesn't mean it's good for them.

........ sorry that was kinda long, I know you seem to be irritated with my "ME TARZAN, YOU JANE" attitude...... no man I'm not calling you Jane just in case, but for arguments sake I'll cut of here.

P.S Oh another quote "Nothing is impossible, only highly Improbable"

[Gradius]

straight from QJ
"Can a backup be played on the PS3? Yes, says Paradox, an Internet release group. Apparently, there's an exploit. Here's what's making the rounds on the Internet:

Well, this still means nothing.

They hacked the game to use that exploit? Or you need to hack the PS3 in order to work? Will this works on every game? You just get that game, burn on blu-ray media, and play? They planning to release a tool to "fix" other games? Someone here can confirm this working? Honestly, they said like nothing.

Gradius

[masr1979]

Well, this still means nothing...Gradius

True, I hear that they claimed they had a way to load isos on the psp and as far as I know, we never saw a release from them. I think I read somewhere that the authorities have them, paradox, on check, so even if they do have a way they might not release it anyways.

Then again they might get a kick out of pissing off the feds, we'll just have to wait and see.

[gumbaz]

oooh i realy do hope there is a way play these .iso dumps and Those Paradox guys just aint teasing us..!!!

[ken9]

wow this topic is sizzlin with ideas n discussions! lol interesting ideas but i personally, as a poor college student, would buy a console if it had a very active scene because 1) i wouldnt wanna buy another dreamcast (for those of u who remember its fate), 2) play games for free! =D, 3) learn some interesting hacks tat can customize your playing experience. BUT, i personally support and dont support burning disc/roms. i think, if its any good (like GOW and R:FOM) then buy it and support the developers, if it sucks like crazy (o i dunno maybe crossfire?) then pirate it...the company isnt gonna fail just because of one lousy game...

[unclejun]

if you can afford a 600$ console, you can buy games as well, can't you?

[masr1979]

Yes, you definitely should be able to, but ken has a point. If we were more.... fair, then piracy is nice. Hey I when I bought my psp I bought that God forsaken Untold Legends, right there and then I promised myself never to buy a game without playing it first. So you can be sure of one thing I don't buy games before I either download them, or in some cases rent them, if the game is good (MGS:PO, FF XII, Ace Combat X) then hell yeah I buy it.

Personally though, I enjoy homebrew more then iso loaders. Let's say the psp scene, even without iso loaders the psp would have one of the best homebrew scenes I've seen. Aside from the saturn, dreamcast, which like the n64 will probably never be fully emulated though I would like to be proven wrong :D I can't think of any other worthwhile console not emulated near perfectly on the psp. If that's not enough, there's a whole bunch of different apps from original games to IM clients.

[xer0_Cool]

The guyz in the scene rock, really, no kissing asses and all, but if not for the great efforts of the great people here and everywhere I would still be playing games off the DVD of my ps2...thus same goes for the ps3,...now that ISO's are dumpable/playable it would make life a bit easier...hehe at least for me after say...I'd get a ps3 in 3-4 years time, by then a lot of games would be downloadable off the net already...so that I could get the hard to find "Launch Games" likewise test something out before buying the actual thing.:dance:

[ken9]

if you can afford a 600$ console, you can buy games as well, can't you?

no....i spent all my money on it....if i buy games...then i wouldnt be able to support myself and get other things like food tats for one...and some other stuff like lab materials, textbooks, and taxes, and all of them cost...a lot...so i've supported sony enough by buying their ps3...im just waiting for an iso loader to be release by danarox, or paradox and besides like i said..i only buy them if they are worth it =D

[FlyingDutchman]

no....i spent all my money on it....if i buy games...then i wouldnt be able to support myself and get other things like food tats for one...and some other stuff like lab materials, textbooks, and taxes, and all of them cost...a lot...so i've supported sony enough by buying their ps3...im just waiting for an iso loader to be release by danarox, or paradox and besides like i said..i only buy them if they are worth it =D

you're not quite supporting sony by buying the ps3.. it's the games & accesoires (broken controllers due to accu breakdowns :)) that count for sony, not the $100+ loss on each ps3 they sell..

[shadow77]

PDX is just teasing you, they may have a working hack but no intention of releasing it to the masses. Just like the PSP. Someone else will deliver the goods.

[Den Leiw]

they have a lot of hacks which we even don't know about, they are basically just telling us that "it" is possible

[kam187]

Damn that was hard to read. One more special post from a special person. What vehicles are most commonly used by the largest market share? Does the average consumer fly to work in a space ship or drive to work in a car or a bus? If you continue to post replies to my posts with poor spelling, grammar, and in all uppercase letters I will have no problem calling you an idiot too. Then again I am all for saving time; man you are an idiot.

HEY LOOK MY ENGLISH IS FROM THE MAIN PART FROM WHERE IT ORIGINATED...THE SPACE TECHNOLOGY WAS USED AS AN EXAMPLE SO IF YOU DIDNT UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR THE IDIOT,MOANING ABOUT NOT BE ABLE TO PLAY FREE ROMS YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF THATS NOT PROFESSIONAL

[cletus_the_Red]

Yes, you definitely should be able to, but ken has a point. If we were more.... fair, then piracy is nice. Hey I when I bought my psp I bought that God forsaken Untold Legends, right there and then I promised myself never to buy a game without playing it first. So you can be sure of one thing I don't buy games before I either download them, or in some cases rent them, if the game is good (MGS:PO, FF XII, Ace Combat X) then hell yeah I buy it.

I know i havent been at the forum lately, because of work. but yea i couldnt agree with you more. why buy a game that you dont like? As well if i cant financially afford it i will buy it when it is at a more reasonable price.

Damn that was hard to read. One more special post from a special person. What vehicles are most commonly used by the largest market share? Does the average consumer fly to work in a space ship or drive to work in a car or a bus? If you continue to post replies to my posts with poor spelling, grammar, and in all uppercase letters I will have no problem calling you an idiot too. Then again I am all for saving time; man you are an idiot.
-hah thats great.
I think he means like russia vs usa (well the space part). Even though the americans won. i believe Japanese electronics are the very best. even though i like both sysmtes. 100&#37; PS3 over xbox 360! -Why go MadCatz when you can get Logitec?

[ken9]

PDX is just teasing you, they may have a working hack but no intention of releasing it to the masses. Just like the PSP. Someone else will deliver the goods.

actually....paradox did release it...but not on bittorrent or p2p netoworks..if u look hard enough...u will eventually find it..i know i did =D but its 12 freaking gigabytes...and my connection is as slow as dail-up

[Illicious]

An iso image or backup now playable on the PS3?

I dont understand HOW, as in from a burned blue ray by disk mode or burned blu-ray installed to the HDD.
What do they mean?
Also, is this a patched 1 game only or firmware for other possible games thing?

PS:
I guess from a burned blue ray in disk mode is ok but seriously, them disks go for $20 bucks each (just for 1). Also, the fact that you would have to already own a blu-ray burner and have the media (looking at $1000 plus if you dont have this).
Its much better to pay $35 on ebay and get the whole game.

I hope they meant to play the iso off the HDD.

[masr1979]

Yeah, they are talking about playing them off the HDD, either way backups on ps3 are not too practical at the moment, IMO. You either need to cough up the dough for the burner ($800), and the media ($25 a piece) or you would need to bet a bigger HDD, because with 60GB I have to substract 10GB for linux, maybe 5 - 10GB for music, pics and other files, so 35GB free + / - and considering the size a ps3 game could be, that's not too much space. Although, so far the biggest I have seen is NFS Carbon, like 11GB. I guess you could always buy a bigger HDD, but those 2.5 bastards are not cheap at all.


Oh Happy New Year Guys, happiness.... money, and good health so you don't have to spend it on things like medicine :D

[ken9]

ehh maybe they were talking about burning on to dvd's in parts XD lol but i doubt btw tats true 60gb just doesnt cut it and resistance is 15gb

[AngryGir]

HEY LOOK MY ENGLISH IS FROM THE MAIN PART FROM WHERE IT ORIGINATED

Proving that you have no excuse for being such an idiot. Read what you write.

IF YOU DIDNT UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR THE IDIOT

YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF THATS NOT PROFESSIONAL

[Jack_Sparrow]

i have to say its fake.

[nastradamus87]

bullshit bullshit...Maybe my business education allows me to see things that those without it might miss so I will try to choose smaller words and write more clearly...blah blah blah

:lol: business
can anyone with a real education tell me why business majors do the least amount of studying but still act more arogant than any other faculty?

[Phreaker47]

Yes, they meant playing the ISO from the HDD. And no, there is NOT a playable/installable image out there. There are images, but right now all they're going to do is sit on your machine and happily take up space because you won't be playing them yet.

[JNABK]

HEY LOOK MY ENGLISH IS FROM THE MAIN PART FROM WHERE IT ORIGINATED
Proving that you have no excuse for being such an idiot. Read what you write.
IF YOU DIDNT UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR THE IDIOT
YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF THATS NOT PROFESSIONAL



:lol: :lol: I think thats the first time i seen someone use a "DeeDeeDee's (http://www.youtube.com/v/_anyKBJFNDk)" quotes against them to illustrate a point! Good one! :dance: :lol:

[kam187]

Proving that you have no excuse for being such an idiot. Read what you write.

:lol: :lol: I think thats the first time i seen someone use a "DeeDeeDee's (http://www.youtube.com/v/_anyKBJFNDk)" quotes against them to illustrate a point! Good one! :dance: :lol:

ok guys the subjects getting boring now...why dont you use the quality time for real purposes.....happy new year

[masr1979]

:lol: :lol: I think thats the first time i seen someone use a "DeeDeeDee's" quotes against them to illustrate a point! Good one! :dance: :lol:

LOL that video is f*cking hilarious, my first 3min of crazy laughter of 2007, thanks for that :D

[Bootlegninja]

That video is so damn true its funny.

[cakcetin]

They (paradox) will wait PS3 launch to the EUROPE?This very strange...Maybe a bluff:)
I wish another groups will find way to play (iso)s from HD before that guys...

[JNABK]

Paradox are very trustworthy! They havent mislead us yet. They are probably waiting till more PS3's are shipped to market, so there will be more consoles that will work , before Sony updates any firmware based on their releases. This would allow a wider amount of people to use it. If they were to make a release now, ther would only be the consoles available now that could use it, if Sony updated the firmware, and they couldnt get around the firmware upgrades.

Then it would have been a waste of time to the Paradox team.

[wmb88]

hopefully it's not going to be a cat and mouse game simlilar to what's going on with PSP.

[ken9]

well im guessing tat they would load the iso via xmb... through linux by showing the hidden partion of the ps3 with all the movies and demos, modifiy one of the games so it shows up as a 'demo' (e.g. overwrite all the motorstorm demo data with the retail version and use some kind of ppf file to patch the .sfo, eboot.bin, and boot.bin so it looks like a demo file excutable to the ps3) stick te file back into its rightful place, reboot back to the ps3 xmb...and boom...lol but tats mah thinking...and its just random ideas but its possible...for u psp goers....remember cracking the TA-82 motherboards? sure it took a few hard long months but it wuz made possible....or we could all install modchips on our precious $600 consoles and probably have bad soldering skillz (like i do lol) and mess it up...

[masr1979]

I will probably never try to install a modchip on a console again, I tried to install one on my ps2 and it didn't go to well. Actually my ps2 rocks, I hear people that say that they have bought 2 or 3 ps2s I'm still on my first one and not even a bad modchip installation has been able to put it down :D I did loose rumble thanks to that though :( but to show you how much I missed it I didn't notice for a few years that it was gone. One day while playing GT at my house, which I normally play at a friends house, is when I when I finally noticed.

[jainischalverma]

If PS3 images were playable, it would really really rock you know!!

[CireDark]

My facination with this topics goes a bit deeper. Will PS2 ISOs be playable with this technology? If so, are Region Codes part of the ISO file? Can I make a data ISO using my Japanese PS2 game, store it on the Hard Drive and Play it on the PS3?
Has ANY PS2 Region workaround been developed for the PS3?
My PS3 is the first console I bought for myself seince my Sega Dreamcast, and I got it under the misconception that the "Region-Free" Playability was extended to the PS2 games as well. After dropping $1000 on eBay to get my PS3, I don't want to drop another $200 for a modded PS2 that will be obsolete in a year.

Any help will be appreciated.

[kam187]

paradox havnt released anything yet because theirs not many games and consoles yet ok

[Angelus3X]

The main reason they havn't dropped the release is that they're a European group and want to allow fellow Europeans to use the exploit too before Sony patches it.

[_zaphod_]

Reigon codes are not contained in the ISO file. they are contained in the protection area, which cannot be seen at all by a PC.

[TheShadowRunner]

in the case of psx games, it's only 1 point on somewhere on the ps3 mobo that would need to be connected (SCEx).
Same for the RGB fix when DVDs are played otherwise the screen is green.
I hope those 2 simple fixes will be found soon, they usually are the first to be found ;)
Later,

TSR

[Gradius]

in the case of psx games, it's only 1 point on somewhere on the ps3 mobo that would need to be connected (SCEx).
Same for the RGB fix when DVDs are played otherwise the screen is green.
I hope those 2 simple fixes will be found soon, they usually are the first to be found ;)
Later,

TSR

Keep dreaming! :lol:

[TheShadowRunner]

bahh of course i can keep dreaming.
It will come sooner or later. just hoping it's sooner..

TSR

[Illicious]

I dont have a xbox 360 but want to know a few things to see if the PS3 may or can possibly follow this pattern. Few Qs:

Does 360 have a working modchip?
Does 360 use firmware?
Is there a working 360 HD Loader avalable.
Can you play Xbox (the first xbox) games off the 360 HDD?
Like the PS3, does the 360 support region free games?

As i understand, the PS3 is region free to keep the modchips away (i heard) but what about different PS2 and PS1 regioned games?.
Would this justify a possible PS3 modchip without litigation (legal issues) for PS2/PS1 games?

If there will be games to download through the PS3 gamestore, but you already own that particular game (retail CDs or DVDs) then why would i want to further abuse my PS3 laser playing them old games?. In another thread here it was said that its Sony's way of saying play em our way or nothing. Also, i have alot of old imports but that is another issue.

I cant see myself playing anything above a DVD format or heavier for hours that would wear out the my PS3.
This is why i ask about the xbox 360 to see if its possible.

[CireDark]

I

I cant see myself playing anything above a DVD format or heavier for hours that would wear out the my PS3.


Let me see if I understand you correctly.

You're worried that playing PS1 games on the PS3 for extended periods will somehow damage or "wear out" the drive/lens/lazer?

[kam187]

will ps1/2 iso's also be playable on the ps3 hdd along with ps3 iso's,or will we to have seperate partitions cheers

[Illicious]

Let me see if I understand you correctly.

You're worried that playing PS1 games on the PS3 for extended periods will somehow damage or "wear out" the drive/lens/lazer?

No. What i mean is constantly playing DVD (or higher formats) based games usually wears out the laser lens of a console.

In this case PS3 will be playing DVDs, DVD9s and Blue-Ray disks and to my past experience playing DVDs for long hours wears down the console's laser.

On my old PS2 i had the laser replaced like 4 times. So how much could i put the PS3 through before it starts showing disk read errors?

This is why i like stuff being ran off the HDD instead.

[Bizquick]

wow I could answer like all these questions with a simple no to all of them. but honestly you really should check like sites like xbox-scene.com and follow up there. You will find alot more information on the 360. Besides this is a Playstation site. I know if I was a mod I would tell you the same thing. But I'm not so there. But anyway just go check it out you will find that the 360 doesnt offer much for hacks right now or may not offer much even in the future. I think the PS3 will be the system that will be the choice for hacks and homebrew.

I dont have a xbox 360 but want to know a few things to see if the PS3 may or can possibly follow this pattern. Few Qs:

Does 360 have a working modchip?
Does 360 use firmware?
Is there a working 360 HD Loader avalable.
Can you play Xbox (the first xbox) games off the 360 HDD?
Like the PS3, does the 360 support region free games?

As i understand, the PS3 is region free to keep the modchips away (i heard) but what about different PS2 and PS1 regioned games?.
Would this justify a possible PS3 modchip without litigation (legal issues) for PS2/PS1 games?

If there will be games to download through the PS3 gamestore, but you already own that particular game (retail CDs or DVDs) then why would i want to further abuse my PS3 laser playing them old games?. In another thread here it was said that its Sony's way of saying play em our way or nothing. Also, i have alot of old imports but that is another issue.

I cant see myself playing anything above a DVD format or heavier for hours that would wear out the my PS3.
This is why i ask about the xbox 360 to see if its possible.

[n8thegr8]

well, the 360's dvd hacks allow you to play backed up games, but only on dual-layer discs, but they've almost got single layer support working. and the wii is the first console to be able to play homebrew (albeit gamecube homebrew, but homebrew nonetheless), unless you count the linux emulators for the ps3 (which imo is no big deal as I could do that on my pc anyways).

[und0]

well, the 360's dvd hacks allow you to play backed up games, but only on dual-layer discs
And, IIRC, only with discs of the same region of the console...

[blacko1]

anyone knows if the upcoming device from team xecuter :Hyperdrive , will be the final solution for iso loading?

[TuRDMaN]

No. Hyperdrive has nothing to do with running backups or homebrew. It just lets you use a full-size 3.5" hard drive instead of the 2.5" SATA one that fits in the PS3.

[ken9]

No. Hyperdrive has nothing to do with running backups or homebrew. It just lets you use a full-size 3.5" hard drive instead of the 2.5" SATA one that fits in the PS3.


the main point of the hyperdrive is just to connect a rly large hd like a 750gb hd to a ps3 so u could just more games...about ehh roughly 36 full games and a few hundred mp3s or one movie

[lordsnk]

in the case of psx games, it's only 1 point on somewhere on the ps3 mobo that would need to be connected (SCEx).
Same for the RGB fix when DVDs are played otherwise the screen is green.
I hope those 2 simple fixes will be found soon, they usually are the first to be found ;)
Later,

TSR

I hope too;)

[bigdaddie]

i just recently made a backup of Virtua Fighter 5 and Full Auto Battlelines with dvd decrypter on a dvd disc. Anyone knows if i can recreate that backup in to an image for the upcoming iso loader, or does it become useless once it&#180;s dumped on a dvd-disc (because the original format is bluray) :chinscrat

[ITMASTER]

One question if you have PS3 and isos from torrents what is the way tomplay them...

[vectorz]

dumb question, but besides backups, why is there so much hoopla about needing a bigger hard drive? There's really not much content available for download on ps3.

[ITMASTER]

I mean why they are releasing iso's anyway it can't be played...

[hellohole]

I mean why they are releasing iso's anyway it can't be played...
Because it'll more than likely be possible in the future. People are simply "preparing" for when that happens.

[bronigs]

there already playable but the people that know how to do it aren't releasing the information, and it seems more likely then not, that they won't tell others how to do it, do to the fact that if they do sony will fix the issue/hole. If its released it'll be when sony figures out the issue/hole and patches it, then they'll release the info probably.

[ken9]

there already playable but the people that know how to do it aren't releasing the information, and it seems more likely then not, that they won't tell others how to do it, do to the fact that if they do sony will fix the issue/hole. If its released it'll be when sony figures out the issue/hole and patches it, then they'll release the info probably.

yeah most likely pdx wont release it anytime soon....im guessing pdx will release it when a) sony finds out the flaw in the firmwire b) when the ps3's arnt as hard to find or c) after a modchip release...most liekly b cuz by tat time...cuz remember the psp scene? 1.5 had homebrew on it and sony patched tat up rly fast and ppl had to wait like...a year just to taste tat internet browser so yeah..their probably waiting on better functions b4 they release it

[digitalFX]

The ps3's are really not hard to find anymore. They are all over my area at all the eb games stores. I still think you are correct about them waiting though.

[ken9]

The ps3's are really not hard to find anymore. They are all over my area at all the eb games stores. .

yeah i've heard about that...but if u live in the La area, there still pretty hard to find since they only have like 4-5 every few weeks

[r50la]

Most people don't have the balls to be soldering mods into a 200-300 dollar console, who in their right mind would think these same majority of the people who make up the gaming community would do something like that to a 500-600 dollar console? Their investments go further then that $500-600 dollars though... tax and a game can bring that figure up close to 200 dollars.

Not having playable backups will not be the death of the PS3.

Uh... I have the balls to install a mod on a 600$ console :D

[qed]

"PDX is just teasing you"

PDX are 'da bomb'.. so based upon their reputation and previous track record i'd have to disagree with you:rolleyes:

[colt45joe]

"PDX is just teasing you"

PDX are 'da bomb'.. so based upon their reputation and previous track record i'd have to disagree with you:rolleyes:

did you read the rest of what he said?

they may have a working hack but no intention of releasing it to the masses. Just like the PSP. Someone else will deliver the goods

makes sense to me.


anyways, i read in an interview with team xecuter that we might hear more about this loader thing when ps3 launches in europe.

[alanisfan]

Pdx are very good at figuring these things out first and then not making their knowledge public, they did it with the PSP as well, but it's their choice really and if you looked into their history you would see why they do it.

[pcmacro]

well I can't look into their history....so why is the reason?

[alanisfan]

They've been given multiple warnings by Sony for several things before and they also consider the scene a bit thankless, which it is really.

[Sen-gOKu]

They've been given multiple warnings by Sony for several things before and they also consider the scene a bit thankless, which it is really.

i for one completely agree with them, as for the rest i know that we all don't like
to wait but that is just what we are going to do.
there are lots of smart guys looking for the ps3 security holes. it's just a matter of time before someone finds something. and then we all can have some nice homebrew apps running on the ps3.:cool:

[alanisfan]

Either that or they will pass their info to a different group like Kal did with the gamecube and to a lesser extent TheSpecialist did with the 360.

[Gringo]

-------------------------------
An official Info File fron Paradox
-------------------------------

| Well where should I start? Seems there have been a large number |
| of LEECHERS moaning about our lack of 'special notes' or the fact |
| we haven't released a 'loader' for PS3 titles - something which I |
| feel is bang out of order since none of you f*ckwits have the |
| slightest idea of what is involved to produce this. |
| |
| We have been working on something for a while in which yes we have |
| dropped some hints in some areas not for you to think 'the loader |
| will be released soon' - more so we've hit a stumbling block lets |
| see if anyone else can help get us past this stumbling block - |
| Something which had worked previously for other problems. But what |
| do I see now? We give a great big pat on the back to someone who |
| did a great job for a similar thing on the PSP and he has the nerve |
| to have a go at US! NO Alej... P. B. we dont need help from |
| outside, if we need help we will ask it directly to the person! |
| Not with the help of a simple txt messages which is public! We |
| rather play a match of football against you on your brother stadium |
| name.. then some kind of lame war! Respect to you! And not to |
| a friend who thinks hes god! Even we are not GODS! |
| |
| So.....where are we now?? Quite simply another stumbling block. |
| We've been happly chugging along getting nice progress then got a |
| PAL PS3 and found it didnt work like it supposed to be! - seems |
| PAL is different in some ways, and no we know peoples will think |
| all firmwares are the same, so why would there be a different? |
| simple answer "Hardware". So were now trying to work on a solution |
| to this. |
| |
| So an ETA on this??? Could anyone please measure a piece of |
| string!! All we can say is it will be ready when its ready. Were |
| not the type of group that releases shoddy goods so sit back and |
| give us the time required to sort it. |
| |
| And to all those b*tching in forums STFU - if you wanna b*tch write |
| your own - oh sorry forgot your thick as fcuk and your knowledge is |
| limited to FTP downloads and WinRAR..... |
| |
| And finally....you need to remember we dont always hang around as |
| the boss/PDX or whatever but what you don't realise is without us |
| you wouldn't have been able to get to where you are today. |
| |
| From PDX Console Leader |

Found inside of an Paradox release, there is some trouble for
the PAL version of PS3....