Saving 56kers - Play SOCOM: US Navy Seals with 56K

[Liquidvlade]

Big thanks to Eric Sasavicz and JD for this guide.

To get your PS2 online with dial up (those without DSL or cable)

What you need:
-Ethernet card/network card ($15 to $20 bucks)
-hub/switch (cheap ones are 4 port around $40 dollars or so, I bought a 8 port, like $60 I can?t remember,
Because I do a little more crazy networking and stuff but you will only use 2 ports for this setup.)
-2 network cables 1 short one 1 as long as you need to reach your PS2


1) Just install Ethernet card/network card into your computer.
(Most computers that are cable/DSL ready have this in already.)

2) Enable internet connection sharing

3) Run a network cable from the network card in your computer to the hub/switch
(Short cable because you can just set your hub/switch on top of your tower like me)

4) Another network cable from the hub/switch to the PS2 network adaptor.
(I ran 50 footer into the basement from my entertainment room to the front den/computer room)

5) We had to put the IP address from my computer into the PS2 network adaptor because you are
Bouncing through the computer to get out to the internet. Once you get to find the
Internet/register it online, (the test to see if it works)


6) Then just logon to the network from the PS2 and then logon to SOCOM and play!

Now there are times, when you will lag a little just jump rooms till you
Find one that is running better. This depends on who is hosting and how far away they are ECT. ect.
For the best results play whither your time zone. I'm in Ohio so I always play in eastern rooms and
Do just fine. I don?t know but I think that your computer will help you out here too. I have a home
Made computer with a supped up, over clocked processor.
(Just adding this for the guy that will try to do this with a 286 or something lol)

That is all that I can remember. You might even be able to get away with letting the PS2
Network adaptor auto configure itself)

Credit to: JD and Eric Sasavicz

This was done by Eric Sasavicz and his buddy JD (he?s a computer guru)
So e mail my hotmail or IM me if you have any problems and
We?ll try to get u hooked up.

AIM - Eric Sasavicz
MSN - Sasavicz@hotmail.com
Yahoo! - Sasavicz
IRC - 147228394

[Sharker25]

I can't stand this crap! WTF!? I pay for brodband and let the cheaters and 56kers lag the hell out of my games. :mad:




Bah, your right and I'm sorry,.I just wish the people wouldn't crawl into that box on frostbite and I wish it didn't lag so much...

[Liquidvlade]

Dude, not everyone has a lot of money, or be able to get broadband because of the area they live in, when you buy a game you want to have fun and enjoy it to the max... some people want to do that to, but they cant because of that...

If you were on their place you would be happy to see this... but it seems like you dont care for other people...

- Liquid

[WKD]

I cant get broadband or ADSL and its not for the lack of trying
It annoys me peeps who can get it think us who cant should be banned :( we have as much right as anyone else :)

[gokuguy]

You 56kers don't realize how much you slow the game down for the rest of us.

[Cooldy]

When I first bought my network adapter I hooked it up to my computer network via an ethernet hub. I only have an external 33.5kb modem but THPS3,THPS4, Frequency, and Twisted Metal Black: Online, all work with little or no lag.

[kizmet]

33.5kb wow thats slow

[PerfectModifications]

I agree with Sharker on this one....Sony didn't WANT you to play with a 56k for that reason--LAG HELLLL. So, this will just screw up the entire community of SOCOM all for the sake of a couple people clever enough to figure this networking trick out......B.S. NATION

[Rob6021]

I was just wondering (yes I hate xbox just like most of you) wouldn't the same trick work to get xbox live running. It would be great to slow them f*ckers down.:)

[Prognon]

Just Wondering, why would you have to go through a hub/switch? If you haven't got any other computers to network why not connect straight from your computer to the PS2?

[Asskick]

Yeah you could actually used a crossed RJ45 cable to connect the PS2 to the NIC on your PC...

[valakos]

i live in australia and can tell you that most broadband suppliers here are much worse than anything available in the U.S. VERY FEW offer unlimited access and most allow you meager download amounts (ie like 500mb or less!!) and then charge you huge fees for excess downloads - broadband in aus is only for the rich

[tredn]

I play socom almost everynight. playing with 56k shouldn't even be talked about. IF you can't get broadband in your area, i'm sorry but this game was made for broadband only for a reason. With the voice and data stream you are talking at least 15k/sec that is needed. This is faster than any 56k connection that I have ever seen. I'm sure that it probably wouldn't run too bad on ISDN if you had dual channel hookup. But in all honesty the game lags enough by itself and it can't be any fun to play on 56k. You probably move ok to yourself but all others would disappear and reappear. and the game would lock up. I know cause I have seen it. That isn't any way to play a game. the game should be played the way that it was meant to be played. take that as you will.

[WKD]

maybe instead of having a go at us peeps who can't get ADSL or broadband, those who can get it should complain to the companys that install it (like BT) then maybe 56k will be a thing of the past

well worth a try, I complain regular to BT, but I think 400 peeps is wot I need to get to trigger my area, not sure theres 400 peeps in the area :lol :lol I waste my time :(

[Liquidvlade]

I had 56K, back in Puerto Rico, where broadband wanst available, and we all were stuck with dial-up, most people have the same problem. Now I moved to US, and I got Broadband, and I really like it I dont care, and I understand the part that it slows the gameplay to those who pay for broadband access, to play a good quality and fast game. and I woulndt care to play with 56Kers lag or not, is the same shit to me, if it gets really laggy, then I leave and go somewhere else, I dont really care.

Picture yourself (those who have broadband) and realize what would you do if you only could have dial-up for whatever reason... and you want to have fun playing online?

Come on people, I know most of you dont give a damn, but lets be real... Everyone has the right to play. if Sony didnt want it to be dial-up, that's ok they had their reasons. But I dont think is fair either.

my .02

[ThAD0oD]

well said :)

[Mr. Sasavicz]

Sharker25.
I agree on the cheater get rid of them in the wall walking and in the box hiding creeps. But I ask you to find me (Mr. Sasavicz) online sometime and play with me and decide for your self when we are playing. Every person I have told that I am on dial up had no idea till i told them.

gokuguy.
Again I ask you to find me (Mr. Sasavicz) online sometime and play with me and decide for your self when we are playing :)
Every person I have told that I am on dial up had no idea till i told them.

Cooldy.
Great minds think alike. (an so do ours :) )

PS2BackupWorld.
Yet gain I ask you to find me (Mr. Sasavicz) online sometime and play with me and decide for your self when we are playing :)
Every person I have told that I am on dial up had no idea till i told them.

Prognon and Asskick.
we tried that,(straight plug in and the little cross box from radio shack), the PS2 Network Adaptor seems to not use the same send/recieve wires the as your computer so we let the hub/switch decipher it.

tredn.
Find me and play with me some time. I dont lag much at all.
I play with cable amd DSL guys that lag more than me.
All the regulars that know me say I move and interact just fine.
the lag is mostly the HOST of them game. If I host it will be HORRID. But if the right person hosts I am just fine.
I guess it is just the cornor of the internet you are in :)

Liquidvlade Hiraduo.
High five!

See you all online later
Mr. S

[Mr. Sasavicz]

Sharker25, gokuguy, PS2BackupWorld, and tredn-
I agree on the cheaters. Get those walk-in-the-wall and hide-in-a-box creeps out. Also I have seen a guy that was invis. Only saw it after i was dead and guns were being picked up and drop by no one! And from what I have found, the lag is cause mostly by the HOST. If i host it will be HORRID yea, but I can play just fine. As a matter of fact, Everyone I have told that I was on dialup was totally suprised. All the regular people that I play with say I interact just fine and have no more lag than a bad cable connection player. I envite anyone to look for me, Mr. Sasavicz, usally in the bottom most US East room and play with me to check it out for yourself.

Cooldy-
Great minds think alike. (and so do ours:) )

Rob6021-
Thats funny! Lets do it!

Prognon and Asskick-
If I remember right we trid that, (plug in directly to network card and the little cross box from radio shack), but it appreas that the Sony Network Adaptor does not use the same wires for send/recieve power/ground ect. as your computer network card. So we let a hub/switch do it for us. (beside my way you are all readdy to just plug in 1 wire when you finally get cable or DSL in your neck of the woods)

WKD-
I agree. And make it a little more affordable. Some of us are not living with mom and dad and letting them pay for all the extra goddies. :(

Liquidvlade Hiraduo-
High five!

Catch some of you online.
Later Mr. S

[Mr. Sasavicz]

I thought I lost the 1st set when I hit Submit reply I closed the window right away so I spend another 5 min rewriting it all agin only to see it posted both!
LOL sorry

Later Mr. S

[Mr. Sasavicz]

I forgot to mention it in my original post but, it is proly a no brainer here, I always turn off all instant messengers, web pages, and any other bandwith using programs (like weatherbug, downloading/updating something. kazaa or any other open file sharing stuff) so that the PS2 is the only thing getting all you bandwith.
Also I have windows XP and it almost always connects over 50K.

I am going to go play now later
Mr. S

[bjohn2881]

This is bull and 56kers should be banned from playing socom online. The game needs lots of speed to be able to play and 56kers ruin the fun for everyone else which makes it kinda like cheating. It doesnt matter anyways becasue their going to update it to show each persons ping in each room so admins can set it up to autoban anyone with a 150+ ping. If you want to play online get high speed! if you cant get it well too bad you dont play online!! thats one thing I like about the xbox

[thetieger]

BJOHN i totally agree, i pay$40 month for my cable connection, i dont wanna go online and play like its freegin 56k! that would just be BS! i spent a LOT LOT LOT of money into my ps2 setup...i have it jus the way i want...so plz if u have 56k, just polayy byurself.

[wagonburner]

Man all you fellas with broadband just crack me up. I myself have 56k and I play all kinds of online games on my pc with out any lag (Deltaforce, Army Ops the free usarmy game, and others) I use RW while playing so I think alot of it is your ISP that causes you lag A0L dialup you will LAG period. I use a diff service AT&& and when I am online my latency is like 125 up to 180. If I could get broadband I darn sure would have it. I check weekly all the time. Please you broadband folks quit crying about it. If I want to play online I will PERIOD. If it lags while I am playing I AM SMART ENOUGH TO LEAVE how can I enjoy all the lag. That is just my opinion.

Wagonburner

[hikaru_shindou]

you know what i think? 56kers SHOULD BE BANNED FROM SOCOM ONLINE,

there is a simple reason for this, WHAT DOES IT SAY ON THE BOTTOM/BACK OF THE BOX? BROADBAND ONLY and there is a reason for that too, and that is high speed is needed to play this game and 56k WASNT MADE FOR IT. this TOTALLY ruins the experiences of others WHO PAY 50 dollars for the game, 40 dollars for the network adapter and 40-50 EACH MONTH for the internet service alone. that is a lot of money and personally (i know most of you who have broadband and have the ps2 online setup would agree) id like to enjoy what ive worked so hard and paid so much for, not to have my experience ruined by some shithead that decided to play a game he wasnt meant to play.

oh yeah lets not forget people from OTHER COUNTRIES than the US, they pay MORE, possibly DOUBLE then we do, and they end up getting screwed too because some handful of idiots decide to CHEAT the system. i really hope sony will make an interface where you have to have a certain amount of latency to play. where it checks the connection speed or something like that.

thats right fuckers, that means stay the fuck out of our servers, lagging pieces of shit. once, i was a 56ker too BUT i knew my limits and played games where 56k was designed to run smoothly. (like starcraft, with broadband hosts of course) some of you may know the horror of playing FPS game like Quake 3 or Unreal through 56k, VS a broadband player, the broadband player clearly wins

[Mr. Sasavicz]

hey I worked hard to buy it all to and I want to enjoy it online just the same as you :)

We are not cheating the system, get somthing other than AOL and you will be fine. People from other countires play in their countries servers so no matter what I do in US East 5 it does not affect Spain or China. And I say again I lag less than a lot of people I see.

And cursing just shows your intellegence so go you.
Come on and Play with me and judge for yourself.
Later Mr. S

[Rami]

No need for hub that costs 50$, crossed RJ45 cable (Ethernet) can be used to connect the PS2 to the NIC on your PC.

Anyhow, here in Israel unlimited broadband connection costs only 25$ per month, so I think I will continue using my 1000 Kbit/sec cable connection |8)

[Cbe]

OK, first of, i think about everybody here "was a 56ker once" so thats no argument.
And second, anybody who thinks that 56K means: lag, and broadband means: no lag, clearly doesn't know what he's talking about and shouldn't just start hammering on the 56kers, because it's a little more complicated than that.

Because lag means dat it takes long for a player to respond. But your signal, be it 56K or broadband, go's at the same speed (3.000.000 m/s i think it is) so in theory should reach te server just as fast. A year ago there where broadband connections that where fast but had a delay, so you could download at 100Kb/s but would have a hi ping, so you couldn't play online really well.

The problem come's when a game needs to send much data to work correctly. If a game needs to send 25Kb of player positions movements and other data per second, a 56Ker can't keep up, it take's his modem more than 3 seconds and this will slow the game down makeing it unplayable.

So 56Kers should be kept out of these game's. But when a game only needs to send small amounts of data you can't even tell the difference between broadband en 56K, like Mr. Sasavicz is trying to tell us.

So i think it's up to the programmers of a game to make a system that will keep out laggers without slowing the game down. So if you have a hi ping, bang! you'r gone, kicked of the server.

Printing: Broadband only, on a game is the easy way out for a programmer i think.

O, and cheaters should be kicked out of a game as hard as possible :mad:

P.s. i have a broadband connection, but was a 56Ker once :p

[wagonburner]

Very informative post from both of you. I agree cursing only shows how intelligent you are. I play madden2k3 online on my ps2 very little lag. Anyways good post and someday I hope to joing the ranks of broadband users. Take it ez later.

Wagonburner

[Sharker25]

Ahh, but Madden doesn't say broadband only on the back of the box... As for Cbe, I think you make extemly Valid points... So If I play small 2 man locked games I'll be out of lag hell. 56kers don't play in the huge games and lag is gone..

[Mr. Sasavicz]

I go to the US East room with the least people and I get in rooms with even 16 people and I do ok.
I had to re boot system tonight to make it go right but after that I am flying :)

later Mr. S

[hikaru_shindou]

Originally posted by Cbe
OK, first of, i think about everybody here "was a 56ker once" so thats no argument.
And second, anybody who thinks that 56K means: lag, and broadband means: no lag, clearly doesn't know what he's talking about and shouldn't just start hammering on the 56kers, because it's a little more complicated than that.

Because lag means dat it takes long for a player to respond. But your signal, be it 56K or broadband, go's at the same speed (3.000.000 m/s i think it is) so in theory should reach te server just as fast. A year ago there where broadband connections that where fast but had a delay, so you could download at 100Kb/s but would have a hi ping, so you couldn't play online really well.

The problem come's when a game needs to send much data to work correctly. If a game needs to send 25Kb of player positions movements and other data per second, a 56Ker can't keep up, it take's his modem more than 3 seconds and this will slow the game down makeing it unplayable.

So 56Kers should be kept out of these game's. But when a game only needs to send small amounts of data you can't even tell the difference between broadband en 56K, like Mr. Sasavicz is trying to tell us.

So i think it's up to the programmers of a game to make a system that will keep out laggers without slowing the game down. So if you have a hi ping, bang! you'r gone, kicked of the server.

Printing: Broadband only, on a game is the easy way out for a programmer i think.

O, and cheaters should be kicked out of a game as hard as possible :mad:

P.s. i have a broadband connection, but was a 56Ker once :p

well said, most of what i was trying to say WITHOUT cursing. and just because i curse doesnt mean that i am not intelligent.

i am 99% more intelligent than many of you that come here. you all dont know me so dont judge or assuming one's character without fully understanding the person. also judging/assuming from one single post isnt too smart either, tells me what kind of people you are already.

when people get emotional about something, especially anger, they arent going to sit there and say WHAT THE FEEZEE? I WANNA BEAT THAT DUDE'S ARSE BECAUSE HE CHEATED IN THIS GAME THAT I BOUGHT IN THE STORE!!

no

he is gonna say

FUCKER LAGGED THE HELL OUT OF ME AND I DIED BECAUSE OF IT, IM GONNA BLAST HIS BITCH ASS OUT OF THE WATER, CHEATIN ASS BASTARD.

next time you wanna put me down, put me down correctly (that wasnt even possible because my post made sense and is TRUE to every word i said) or just dont put me down at all. try to read what people write and see thier points and different views from different angles, why did they say that, how did he feel when he wrote this, blah blah and all that junk......just because i used a 'bad' word doesnt say anything about my intelliegnce. in fact. my post was the most intelligent out of all of them. if you want me to battle it out then i will (and i will win) but if not then back the fuck down.

[Liquidvlade]

Originally posted by hikaru_shindou

i am 99% more intelligent than many of you that come here. you all dont know me so dont go judging or assuming one's character without fully understanding the person

:rolleyes:

[hikaru_shindou]

you know exactly why i meant, so dont try and exploit my grammar errors. you want to challenge me then do it. for if you do, you will lose 100%

[Liquidvlade]

is not a grammar error, because I make my mistakes and big ones sometimes, what I am pointing is the following, you are saying that you are 99% more intelligent than anyone here, and then you say that dont judge you, because we dont even know you...

then why the hell you say that you are 99% smarter than anyone?

also you are judging that I will lose 100%? also judging... without knowing me...

:rolleyes:

[hikaru_shindou]

Originally posted by wagonburner
Very informative post from both of you. I agree cursing only shows how intelligent you are. I play madden2k3 online on my ps2 very little lag. Anyways good post and someday I hope to joing the ranks of broadband users. Take it ez later.

Wagonburner

go suck on thier nuts, they dont know wtf theyre talking about and you dont either, btw they dont even have cable and havent even experienced playing games where they were lagged out of the game. im talking SEVEN FRAMES PER SECOND

bottom line is, you will never know what its gonna be like until you get broadband. once you go you will never come back. btw i can crossreference past posts that have people AGREEING with what i said earlier.

those people know wtf theyre talking about because they have it and have experienced it.

if a 56k player goes on and doesnt lag the game then cool, another teammate or another person to shoot, but if they lag the game (especially if they know its gonna happen) then they should stay out of the room. most of the time, the player knows that his connection sucks (connected at 33600 wtf?) but goes on and plays anyways.

[hikaru_shindou]

Originally posted by Liquidvlade Hiraduo
is not a grammar error, because I make my mistakes and big ones sometimes, what I am pointing is the following, you are saying that you are 99% more intelligent than anyone here, and then you say that dont judge you, because we dont even know you...

then why the hell you say that you are 99% smarter than anyone?

also you are judging that I will lose 100%? also judging... without knowing me...

:rolleyes:

no im not judging, im stating that you WILL lose 100% because i KNOW for a FACT that you will.

its like putting a n00b player vs a experienced player on Starcraft, n00b player will always lose. ive gone through enough online flame wars and ive won many of them, and mostly against intelligent people.

you are saying that you are 99% more intelligent than anyone here

fact

and then you say that dont judge you

i say it because it has happened, do you want me to refer back to past posts? simply, i was deemed unintelligent because i used harsh language. that was untrue and i was judged without a single thought as to why i said what i said.

because we dont even know you...

also fact

again you need to read my message and TRY to UNDERSTAND what i said and where it is coming from. none of you know me. and thus, judging/assuming my intelligence and character is completely wrong and uncalled for. why do you think im replying in the first place about this subject? just think about it a little harder

then why the hell you say that you are 99% smarter than anyone?

intelligence and judging/assuming are two totally different things. first of all, i jokingly said i was 99% smarter than anyone in here for the sole reason of pointing out that i am nowhere near an idiot. i know there are other intelligent people in here, not just me.

[Liquidvlade]

Dude, you cannot go saying that you are smarter than anyone here, because you don't know any one of us in real person, you might consider yourself smart, is ok, but some people from here "might" be smarter than you, but I dont know them you "might" be smarter than them.

What bothered me was that you judged other people without knowing them..., they judged you because, cursing shows little intelligence... that's why few people said it, and if you say you are smart, you must know that.

Also you don't even know who I am, and you say that I will lose 100%? Maybe yes maybe not, online flaming is plain stupid, is not a title, flaming online is just being ignorant kids... I don't flame anyone, flaming shows how immature someone can be.

The point is don't judge someone without knowing them first, just like you said in your post...

- Liquid

and lets use the PM system, this is for Newz nothing else...

[hikaru_shindou]

re-read the bottom of my post.

What bothered me was that you judged other people without knowing them..., they judged you because, cursing shows little intelligence...

ok so other people judging me has rights to do it but not myself? i have just about as much right as the next person when it comes to judging. ill judge whoever the hell i want. sure its not right, but when someone does it to me, ill do it right back at them and see how they like it. not everything is so onesided as how youre seeing it right now


that's why few people said it, and if you say you are[b] smart, you must know that.

no i dont agree with everyone saying that if someone uses harsh language, they are unintelligent. that is untrue. although it tends to be true. it is still untrue. also sterotypical. where is proof of this supposed fact? im proving it wrong as we speak.

also just because usual intelligent people dont use words like that doesnt mean anyone else can. you dont hear it from people like that too often but if you pay attention to people and thier outlook on life, you will see how intelligent a person can be. no matter what kind of way he/she speaks.

Also you don't even know who I am, and you say that I will lose 100%?

did you read this?

its like putting a n00b player vs a experienced player on Starcraft, n00b player will always lose. ive gone through enough online flame wars and ive won many of them, and mostly against intelligent people.

you need to take some english courses.

Maybe yes maybe not, online flaming is plain stupid, is not a title, flaming online is just being ignorant kids... I don't flame anyone, flaming shows how immature someone can be.

whos flaming anyone? first of all, im proving you wrong.

second of all, my first post wasnt meant to flame anybody (the curse words gave that impresson though, but it shouldnt) it was me trying to relay my feelings THROUGH WORDS, obviously showing it was outraged by this release of information that could ruin this game.

btw if youll stop, then ill stop replying. simple as that.

[Liquidvlade]

they judged you because you gave them a chance too...

using harsh language for something simple as a game... it is...

i jokingly said i was 99% smarter than anyone in here for the sole reason of pointing out that i am nowhere near an idiot. i know there are other intelligent people in here, not just me.

its ok if it is a joke, but no one would ever guess it was...

[hikaru_shindou]

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you are saying that you are 99% more intelligent than anyone here
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fact

dont i sound a little bit overconfident here? its highly apparaent. and also i relay the image of myself as an intelligent person, dont you think id know that other intelligent people out there besides me?

also you say that its simply a game. untrue, do you know why?

simple.

because money is involved. and money is gained through work. and to work, you put a lot of effort and time into making that money. and when you work hard for something and have it totally ruined for you by someone else, of course youre gonna get angry.

heres an example.

you buy a 1500$ 92 Honda Civic. someone goes and PURPOSELY wrecks your car. would you be mad? you put so much effort to get that car and to have it totaled?

its like socom, with the release of this information, there is a surge of 56k players that are going to flood the servers. and the infastructure of Socom online is already made to handle broadband only players, but it ISNT made to handle slower players. and what this is gonna do is there will be a high percentage of going into a game room and have it lag horribly then in the past (with no 56k) there wasnt very much risk of lag at all. and this totally ruins the setup of your network adapter (40$), the game (50$ people usually buy this just for online), and your broadband service (40-50 a month) combine all the costs. quite a bit of money isnt it? (130$) surely nothing you could earn in a day or two. that 130 doesnt come easily (also broadband service is monthly so that adds up)

[hikaru_shindou]

oh yeah, not everyone has awesome 56k, have you thought about that? most people have msn/aol, few have real dialup services that is actually usable for online games.........

[Loto_Bak]

There is a very simple solution, just have the socom servers kick anyone with a ping above a specific point. That way 56kers can run their own servers with a high ping kick and cable people can run their own also.

if yo uhave a descent dial up service and get a good ping to the server others may not notice (as long as your not using voice) but when you lag the server down compared to everyone else who has a ping of 150ms and your up at 450 trying to play its a little rediculous.

I think that this is a poor news item to post and am dissapointed that ps2news wouldnt consider not posing this to the masses.

When only the somewhat technically minded knew how to do it (or anyone with basic network knowledge) they knew that they should stick to the servers where they get a good ping. Now all the noobs and lamers are going to get on and slow things down.

What this does mean is that socom online will respond to all the complaints they get and employ something simular to the ping kick.

[hikaru_shindou]

Loto_Bak:

that is what i had suggested earlier, but people were too blinded by the fact that i used 'bad' language to read what i had to say.

yeah when you face a 450ms opponent it does get ridiculous, and that really should (actually it DOES) outrage people because they see it and it SHOULDNT be happening in the first place.

[Mr. Sasavicz]

hikaru_shindou-
I did not mean to stir up that much shit sorry man! I just wanted people to think before they speak/type. Yea I can curse like a sailor with the best of them but I really cant in everyday activities.
(I am a teacher with a masters and going for my Doctorate, but my spelling and grammer are a real joke so I am with you on that not judging people thing I never ment it to go that way)

but again PLZ get online today and find Mr. Sasavicz and tell me what you think. I really want to know if you super connection people can see me lag because about once a night I find a room where I lag and just find a new one and do fine. And noone ever complains to me about it really.

And yes I dont have MSN/AOL I have the local internet company that IS the cable company that also supplies dial up so I think that helps the cause too.

p.s. I am ranked in the top 4k so I must be doing ok.
I was under 3k for longest time before christmass but then came Wild Arms 3, Suikoden 3, Star Wars Bounty Hunter, Star Wars Clone wars, and I had to play them you see. :)

[SledDog]

LOL Well I assure you he sure the hell ain't smarter than me... :D