Need tips about installing chip

[SunG]

hello ..
i have a few question about installing the modchips...
I have seen people using glue to hold the wires .. but i couldnt see anything that sticks the modchip pcb to PS2 boards ...
how do u guys make the modchip pcb stay in it's place?
Also is there a better way to hold the wires? ... im afraid if the glue melts when the ps2 runs hot after hours of gameplay.
thanks alot

[dungbeetle46]

some chips come with double sided tape on the back but if it doesnt just put your own double sided tape, you can also use this for the wires.
some people use super glue or you can also use a hot glue gun for the wires, i have never heard of the glue melting from the heat off the board.
cheers

[SunG]

i see .. thank you very mucho :) ...
one more thing .. i noticed that Modbo 2.0 has sleep mode as well .. im trying to choose between H2o mod and Modbo .. which one should i go for ? i know Modbo is clone ... but the sleep mode is enticing me :-) .. what do u guys think ?

[EspeN]

H20.

All chips have the function to disable chip these days.
I would order a real matrix infinity if i was you.
if you cant afford it, i would get a DUO2SE or a H20.
If u have v12,v13 get a H20. (since duo2se only works v1-v10).

[SunG]

what i mean by sleep mode is the chip automatically shut down to make sure the IC wont overheat ... the chip will monitor the ps2 activity and when needed it will wake up to do its job. Can h2O mod does that ?

[summ0ne]

yes, it does that :-)

[SunG]

oooh gonna get my hands on that :)

[Cataulin]

wait did i read that right? you can hot glue the wires the chip and the board instead of sodering or am i just being wishfull?

[alphacorvus]

They mean using hot glue in addition to soldering.

[Cataulin]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhh ok.

i was wondering do any of you guys use that Cold heat portable sodering gun?

i was thinking of getting one. but i dont know how reliable they are.

[cubistproject]

Don't use those cold heat guns. THey spark and shit - says in the directions not to use on electrical components. lol

[Ex-Cyber]

It doesn't say that in my directions... however it does say not to use it on fine-pitch devices (because touching a different pin with each side of the tip would cause it to arc through the chip). In any case, the design is certainly not appropriate for PS2 modding. The gap in the tip is too large, and aside from that the tip is easily damaged.

[Nazo]

For the wires, personally, one little trick I've been doing for some things lately is to put the hot glue down first, let it dry, then run the tip across the section I want a wire to go so it melts just a tiny little bit. Then I can simply press the wire into it. Of course, one has to be careful I guess, but, really it's not hot enough to seriously burn you unless you get a whole glob of melted glue on you at once (been there, done that.)

On soldering irons, what I find to be the absolutely most convenient thing out there are the gas powered irons. I'm using a relatively cheap $20 one from RadioShack which I can run on butane using cigarette lighter refills from gas stations (officially you're supposed to use cartridges that use some other gas that they sell in RadioShack -- can't remember which gas that is right off hand, but it's not butane -- but, I've been using it like this for years and it works great.) This gives you a hand-held portable iron that's relatively light compared to a battery powered model, and a lot safer (I haven't damaged an electrical component yet, and I'm a bit careless at times.) I've heard those battery powered irons can mess up a lot of components, though I never really understood why. Maybe the same sort of reason the cold soldering irons are dangerous. These have variable control so you can get the temperature just exactly right. I did have to grind down the tip just a little bit to give it a finer point for real precision work though. I'm starting to see more of these things crop up -- even one at a lowes (or was it home depot?) so they must be working for some people.