Hackers Hardware

[theunforgiven]

I was afraid to post this earlier but here it is.
REAL Info about hackershardware
i got 2 emails i sent about 25.
Took from ovtober28 until december 18 and the winner of ALL reasons NOT to order from them is this nice little log from IRC
They install clips

Session Start: Thu Dec 05 18:15:31 2002
Session Ident: RoT
[18:15:31] Session Ident: RoT (renegade@five.fast-irc.com)
[18:15:31] <RoT> were installing a magic 3.5 in your machine.. relax
[18:16:22] <TU> FUCK NO
[18:16:25] <TU> DO NOT
[18:16:31] <TU> I don't want no clip bullshit.
[18:16:32] <RoT> you want magic 3?
[18:16:33] <TU> Yea.
[18:16:37] <RoT> alrighty
[18:16:47] <TU> sorry but i know those clips are shit.
[18:16:48] <RoT> clips are find dude, I tested them
[18:16:55] <TU> i don't care.
[18:17:02] <RoT> the reason why people say that is installers dont want people to start buying them
[18:17:03] <TU> i want a nice solid solder connection
[18:17:13] <RoT> ok dude
[18:17:14] <TU> i don't care
[18:17:22] <TU> Thx
[18:17:26] <TU> For being understanding
[18:18:01] <RoT> no problem just quit bugging me every day about your system
[18:18:07] <RoT> I will email you or message you when it goes out
[18:18:19] <TU> i just wnt a tracking number :-P
Session Close: Thu Dec 05 20:48:12 2002

Rot is a fucking asshole after not recommending HIS service in a channel and saying go with someone else... than i find my self and i have to go thru this conversation

Session Start: Tue Nov 26 19:48:28 2002
Session Ident: RoT
[19:48:28] Session Ident: RoT (renegade@five.fast-irc.com)
[19:48:28] <RoT> and never come back
[19:48:46] <TU> way to influence customers dude. you REALLY do have a shitty business. don't blame me for voicing my opioion
[19:49:29] <RoT> ya well its my channel I will do what I want
[19:49:32] <TU> heh
[19:49:36] <TU> Anyway.
[19:49:36] <RoT> your shit just got put at the end of teh line
[19:49:40] <RoT> now you can wait another month
[19:49:45] <TU> Heh.
[19:49:49] <TU> what my name if your so keen
[19:49:59] <RoT> I have it here in my logs but IM on the phone
[19:50:05] <TU> haha
[19:50:08] <RoT> so IM too busy to fuck with it
[19:50:09] <TU> nto with customers i bet.
[19:50:18] <RoT> no suppliers
[19:50:31] <TU> sad thing is.
[19:50:34] <RoT> you dont know whats been going on the last fucking 60 days
[19:50:34] <TU> i did recommend you.
[19:50:39] <TU> up until about last week.
[19:50:43] <TU> when i started getting worried.
[19:50:47] <RoT> were upgradeing like 3000 chip orders for free with new updated chips
[19:50:49] <TU> and stoped reciving ANY word.
[19:50:52] <RoT> and you want to fucking bitch about it
[19:51:02] <RoT> you could have just asked me anytime for my personal email
[19:51:08] <TU> YOU GAVE IT TO ME
[19:51:09] <RoT> I always talked to you when you where online
[19:51:11] <TU> I EMAILED THAT AND GOT NOTHING
[19:51:13] <RoT> and I was cool with you
[19:51:17] <RoT> what email?
[19:51:25] <TU> hot mail one i think
[19:51:33] <TU> pne sec.
[19:51:55] <TU> i felt completely ignored and like i wasn't going to get shit back.
[19:52:00] <TU> THATS why i diss your company.
[19:52:01] <RoT> I dont have a hotmail account
[19:52:15] <TU> wpf@hushmail.com
[19:52:17] <RoT> you got a free upgrade that was also $24 free
[19:52:19] <TU> you gave me that one.
[19:52:26] <RoT> and you trash me and my website?
[19:52:34] <RoT> well i dont have time to deal with someone like you
[19:52:36] <TU> i'd have rather paid 24$ than wait this long.
[19:52:37] <RoT> go away
[19:52:40] <RoT> too busy
[19:52:47] <RoT> dude the chips are not 100% yet
[19:53:01] <TU> Why didn't you just ANWSERE my emails!
[19:53:06] <RoT> I cant install what I dont believe will work 100% even the full retail ones magic sells right now are crap
[19:53:16] <RoT> Honestly I didnt ever see your email
[19:53:38] <TU> i have it in my sent email box.
[19:53:43] <RoT> I dont have time to look through the logs but are we modding your system or did you buy one modded?
[19:53:58] <TU> you said your putting my order to the back :(
[19:54:10] <TU> so if i give you any more info you will delay melong
[19:54:13] <TU> longer*
[19:54:30] <RoT> no I have your info in my chat log from before when we talked and I told you I would upgrade you free
[19:54:33] <RoT> I just gotta look through it
[19:54:37] <TU> it is a sys upgrade.
[19:54:40] <TU> mod service.
[19:54:52] <RoT> cool I will send it back to you and you can have someone else do it then
[19:54:56] <RoT> alright
[19:55:06] <TU> you gonna send my 111$ check back?
[19:55:10] <RoT> yep
[19:55:13] <TU> excellant.
[19:55:21] <RoT> and IM going to shit list you on the botnet cause I dont like your attitude
[19:55:29] <RoT> I told you it would be this long and you where cool with it
[19:55:35] <TU> No you didn't.
[19:55:38] <TU> i log everything to.
[19:55:38] <RoT> so if you wonder why you are banned thats why
[19:55:42] <TU> hah.
[19:55:47] <TU> i just want my moded ps2 thats all.
[19:55:51] <TU> when are you going to ship it back.
[19:56:00] <RoT> good bye
[19:56:17] <TU> shit dude
[19:56:20] <TU> you can't just send the check back
[19:56:22] <TU> it is in your name
[19:56:28] <TU> i need you to send me a new check back in my name
Session Close: Tue Nov 26 20:01:53 2002

Session Start: Tue Nov 26 20:17:32 2002
Session Ident: RoT
[20:17:32] Session Ident: RoT (renegade@five.fast-irc.com)
[20:17:32] <RoT> I already said yes
[20:17:36] <RoT> now stop messaging me
[20:17:45] <TU2> you sending me the shipping money back?
[20:17:51] <RoT> yep
[20:17:51] <TU2> it was like 30$
[20:18:02] <RoT> its going to cost us that much to send it back so yes
[20:18:09] <TU2> No uh-uh
[20:18:10] <TU2> nice try.
[20:18:17] <TU2> i want the money I used to ship it out.
[20:18:20] <TU2> i am not getting screwed
[20:18:33] <TU2> it was 2nd day air.
[20:18:50] <TU2> i still have the tracking number if your intersted.
[20:18:52] <RoT> read our terms if you find it in there somewhere I will refund ya
[20:19:00] <TU2> http://wwwapps.ups.com/WebTracking/processInputRequest?HTMLVersion=5.0&sort_by=status&term_warn=yes&button_index=201&tracknums_displayed=5&TypeOfInquiryNumber=T&loc=en_US&InquiryNumber1=1z5ar1480200017258&InquiryNumber2=&InquiryNumber3=&InquiryNumber4=&InquiryNumber5=&AgreeToTermsAndConditions=yes&track.x=21&track.y=8
[20:19:04] <TU2> err..
[20:19:21] <TU2> Well you can't jsut cancel my order and fuck me out of the total cost it cost me
[20:19:53] <RoT> go read our terms if it says somewhere about refunding shipping $$$ we will but I doubt it will
[20:20:39] <TU2> dosn't say you will and it dosnt say you won't.
[20:20:52] <TU2> This ISN'T a return
[20:20:57] <TU2> this is YOU canceling my ORDER
[20:21:07] <TU2> If Hackers Hardware cannot fill the order at any time, a store credit or refund will be authorized at the Customers request.
[20:21:13] <TU2> so you owe me a store credit.
[20:21:38] <RoT> you bet I will send you 100% of your money that you sent me
[20:21:45] <RoT> and your item
[20:21:49] <TU2> I dont WANT it
[20:21:52] <TU2> i wnt my fucking product.
[20:22:05] <TU2> i have been waiting for a month
[20:22:10] <TU2> and you wonder why i am pissed off.
[20:22:50] <TU2> it dosn't say in your TOS that you can cancel my order.
[20:23:20] <RoT> doesnt say we can or cant...
[20:23:33] <TU2> Look.
[20:23:38] <TU2> i really don't give a fuck about the bans
[20:23:45] <TU2> just keep my in My current spot and MOD the fucking thing.
[20:23:55] <TU2> i don't have any more time to put in to this WHOLE fucking ordeal
[20:24:03] <TU2> it has been since like october.
[20:24:24] <TU2> October 28 to be exact.
[20:24:31] <TU2> 2 days shy of a month.
[20:25:44] <TU2> So can you Just MOD the fucking thing or are you going to make life difficult for both of us and send it back. we both lose one way or another.
[20:28:37] <TU2> hello?
[20:28:37] No such nick/channel
[20:28:41] No such nick/channel
Session Close: Tue Nov 26 20:29:17 2002

[theunforgiven]

Session Start: Tue Nov 26 20:34:00 2002
Session Ident: RoT
[20:34:00] Session Ident: RoT (renegade@five.fast-irc.com)
[20:34:00] <RoT> 311
[20:34:12] <TU2> don't make me track it down.
[20:34:37] <RoT> go ahead
[20:34:50] <TU2> Dude
[20:34:53] <TU2> JUST talk to me here.
[20:34:58] <TU2> I need it moded.
[20:35:20] <RoT> IM very mad
[20:35:38] <RoT> you pissed me off saying that shit
[20:35:43] <RoT> in my channels
[20:35:56] <TU2> Alright but look.
[20:36:01] <TU2> Just talk this out.
[20:36:07] <TU2> i can't afford to wait again.
[20:36:09] <TU2> i need this back
[20:36:12] <RoT> I wanted to but you dont understand
[20:36:23] <TU2> you don't understand how parnaoid i am
[20:37:39] <RoT> about?
[20:38:08] <TU2> My ps2.
[20:38:14] <TU2> i am worried about it.
[20:38:16] <TU2> it is sick.
[20:38:20] <TU2> i JUST want it BACK.
[20:38:26] <TU2> i don't want others to worry liek this either.
[20:38:47] <RoT> its not your job to worry about others
[20:39:10] <TU2> the onyl reson i didn't recommend you was based on experiance.
[20:39:15] <TU2> Wouldn't you have done the same?
[20:39:32] <RoT> what you dont understand is our business
[20:39:41] <RoT> and IM not going to sell you something that will breat your ps2
[20:40:01] <RoT> break your ps2 or that you wont be 100% happy with
[20:40:06] <RoT> the magic 2 has so many problems
[20:40:10] <RoT> vs magic 3
[20:40:12] <TU2> I didn't know that.
[20:40:29] <TU2> heh i really didn't even care as that point i am so paranoid about my PS2 not comming back
[20:41:01] <TU2> So can you please just do the mod and forget what i siad?
[20:41:18] <TU2> i JUST want my PS2 back modified.
[20:41:30] <RoT> yes but only if you stop being a dick and saying stuff about my site in the channels
[20:41:45] <TU2> I can't you banned me.
[20:41:46] <TU2> heh
[20:41:53] <TU2> But i will stop non-recommending you.
[20:41:57] <TU2> alright?
[20:42:21] <RoT> sounds good
[20:42:33] <TU2> Thank you.. God.
[20:42:50] <TU2> Now i just have one question. when do you plan on getting these things to go and what order is mine in?
[20:48:13] <TU2> or can i just get a semi-rough date when your gonna ship it? like a week or 2 weeks?
[20:48:24] <RoT> next week
[20:48:38] <RoT> when we get a new revision of the magic 3 chip that works better
[20:49:06] <TU2> Alright
[20:49:09] <TU2> thanks. sorry again.
[20:54:02] <TU2> alright well good night and i am sorry again
Session Close: Tue Nov 26 20:54:04 2002

[Gamezall]

What a dick! have u gotten it yet????????

[theunforgiven]

yes i recived it thats the only reason i posted it

[thetieger]

that fucking cunt!!! ifd i knoew where he lived id intro a baseball bat to his face!

[theunforgiven]

thanks for the sticky who ever stuck it :D

[ckt]

Hi, is www.au-hackershardware.com any connection to the
above site, Hackers hardware?

[theunforgiven]

I have no idea. :-/

[undertoe]

Hi ,

I run au-hackershardware.com and have no connection to the US site at all. Im gonna have to change the name i reckon :P

[ckt]

Originally posted by undertoe
Hi ,

I run au-hackershardware.com and have no connection to the US site at all. Im gonna have to change the name i reckon :P

Well, if you stated no connection to the US site you should as
people might mistaken you AU site as a branch of the US site.
BTW, I did order some Messiah 2 chips from your site and had
waitted for almost 2 weeks.
Just hope I will received the order.

[leafs1]

Gee.. if you nagged me every day like that i would not only give you attitude, but i would personalyl b*tch slap you across the teeth!

Leafs1

[theunforgiven]

uhh dude i would have been an asshoel but this was over a time period of like a month and a half

[ps374]

Geee lets see... Rot is a liar and thief, wonder what would have happened if he didn't get on his case, probably would've got screwwed.. so bitch slap yourself bioch

[undertoe]

Originally posted by ckt
Well, if you stated no connection to the US site you should as
people might mistaken you AU site as a branch of the US site.
BTW, I did order some Messiah 2 chips from your site and had
waitted for almost 2 weeks.
Just hope I will received the order.

Was your order COD or prepaid express post? Please email me your details so i can give you an update

[usafa92]

Ha! Hackers'Hardware site has the same pics ripped from Easy BUy 2000 site? That customer service chick must really get around.

Can you post more info about Hacker's Hardware (ie. location, address, etc)? In case he changes the name of his site we'll still know it's the same dude/chick/dick/whatever.

[theunforgiven]

i don't have any info other than the business address which will change if they rename the site :-/

[ckt]

Originally posted by undertoe
Was your order COD or prepaid express post? Please email me your details so i can give you an update

undertoe, I had just received the chips today.
Very good packing for the chips but it took hell of times
to reach my side due to holiday season.
Now hope all chips are working.
Thanks.

[undertoe]

Good to hear mate, yea international post over xmas etc is hell :(

[Alec]

I hope someone uses this information to....nevermind.

Registrant:
WPF
Winschoterdiep 1007
Groningen, Groningen 00
NL
0641273940
Fax:0641273940


Domain Name: HACKERSHARDWARE.COM

Administrative Contact:
Hetemier, Floarma wpf@hushmail.com
Winschoterdiep 1007
Groningen, Groningen 00
NL
0641273940
Fax:0641273940


Technical Contact:
Hetemier, Floarma wpf@hushmail.com
Winschoterdiep 1007
Groningen, Groningen 00
NL
0641273940
Fax:0641273940


Record last updated 07-17-2002 07:11:18 AM
Record expires on 12-23-2003
Record created on 12-23-1999

Domain servers in listed order:
NS.LIQUIDWEB.COM 64.91.224.2
NS1.LIQUIDWEB.COM 64.91.228.2

[Alkaline]

hackershardware stole 60 dollars form me and never sent my chips. Screw them I hope some robber comes to there place and steals everything.

[theunforgiven]

how did you pay?

[Whitemt]

Well i want to share my story as well with you guys what ever you do DONT ORDER FROM THEM EVER!!!!!! I ordered two magic 3 chips from there ( i know they half off could not resist) then i read the boards here and was like i will cancel that order they seem very shady. They said no problem becouse i cancled them the same day. i was like great they said will take about 3 days for me to get my money back i told them no problem. Well 2 weeks go by and i getting kinda mad now so i start emailing them and nothing 3 weeks go by and i have filed complaints with 2checkout now ( that is who they use to outsource there tranzations). Nothing there well here we are over a month later they send me an email saying that they are going to refund me my my becouse they dont have the chips (thats odd i remiber canceling the order and they said no problem) i was like what ever just send me my money they said 48 hours you will have it. But as luck would have it no refund. I then had to email 2checkout about 9 times before i got everything squared away here below is a copy of the email to show that Hackers Hardware has been ripping people off. They got there accounts Frozen.

-----Original Message-----
From: johnt@2checkout.com [mailto:johnt@2checkout.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 4:37 PM
To: White, Michael T
Subject: Re: Can I get some service please



This is VERY true. We suspended this sellers account due to them not fulfilling customers orders. We cannot issue you a refund until you provide us with an order number or more information to assist you.

Customer Service

----- Original Message -----

From: White, Michael T

To: 'service@2checkout.com'

Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 2:46 PM

Subject: Can I get some service please



This is what HackersHardwhere sent me in a email.



"Since 2checkout and paypal froze our account we cannot

access the money. That is why we need for you to file a complaint so they can refund you."



That is what Hackers Hardware is telling me. So can I get my money refunded by you guys? I have sent many complaints 8 of them I think and I have yet to hear from you. What is going on? Hacker's hardware tells me to get my money back you guys got to give it to me this true? And can I get it back. So can I get my 99.0 I ordered this stuff back in early December and canceled the order the next day! They said no problem on getting me my money but never got it yet. They then said they didn't have the chip in stock and would refund my money in 48 hours but that was 2weeks ago and I got nothing. Now they say there account is frozen by you guys so can I get my money from you guys please?

[undertoe]

That sucks man, hope it works out ok

[Whitemt]

I got my money back but if anyone that didnt i can give you some email address to send emails to that will get your money back let me know dont want to see anyone get ripped off. Whitemt@comcast.net just bounce me an email later.

[getit]

yep had same problem here, bought some chips at half off and got nothing and no replies from my emails i sent..........called my bank yesterday and got my $$$ back today.......they are a big f**king scam!! DO NOT BUY FROM THEM

[Rlee7]

This guy sounds asinine!! I'd be buggin if someone had my PS2 too, even if it was my neghbour...although ya never know with MY neighbours....

[getit]

forgot to mention that i also started a thread at console source and it got deleted!!

[bjohn2881]

I never ordered from them but heres some information for whoever got ripped off


BBB Reliability Report


Hackers Hardware
10601 Tierrasanta Blvd. #151
San Diego, CA 92124


General Information

Principal : Mr. Roy Parker
Phone Number: (909) 809-0574
Type-of-Business Classification: Computer Hardware / Software
Website Address: www.hackershardware.com



http://www.sandiego.bbb.org/commonreport.html?compid=30001461

[tc_]

Rumour has it that he has moved to Las Vegas.

bewarned, a place that moves around most likely is trying to avoid a certain state law. screw people while registered in CA, then those can't go after him if he is in NV. two cents.

Yes he was selling real magic3 but they were clones, he did that with this x-cuter 2.0, some people got cheapmod stuff not the actual x-cuter 2.0 lite. scammers.

[theunforgiven]

after telling the IRC channel of my bad install look at this

[theunforgiven]

Session Start: Mon Jan 20 18:50:23 2003
Session Ident: RoT-
[06:50:23] Session Ident: RoT- (rot@sex.monger.org)
[06:50:23] <RoT-> you talking more shit again eh?
[06:50:29] <TU> YEa
[06:50:31] <TU> i am sick of this
[06:50:31] <RoT-> <TU> HACKERSHARDWARE FUCKED MY INSTLAL U[
[06:50:33] <TU> i opened my ps2
[06:50:36] <TU> And your install fucking sucks
[06:50:38] <TU> missing screws
[06:50:43] <TU> i can't even replace the chip if i wanted to
[06:50:47] <RoT-> yep well enjoy your perm ban
[06:50:50] <RoT-> bye
[06:50:51] <TU> ah
[06:50:58] <TU> ASS
Session Close: Mon Jan 20 18:51:05 2003

Session Start: Mon Jan 20 18:51:05 2003
Session Ident: RoT-
[06:51:05] Session Ident: RoT- (rot@sex.monger.org)
[06:51:05] <RoT-> I was sending yoru chip tomorrow
[06:51:10] <RoT-> now you can just go eat it
[06:51:10] <TU> sure sure.
[06:51:14] <TU> LOL
[06:51:19] <RoT-> I even offered you to send it here and we will do it
[06:51:27] <TU> NO YOU DIDN't THATS A LIE!
[06:51:29] <TU> LIE LIE LIE!
[06:51:32] <TU> THATS why i am pissed
[06:51:38] <RoT-> No you get to go bye bye forever
[06:51:39] <TU> cause you expect me to do something YOU screwed up
[06:51:45] <RoT-> no more TU in my channel
[06:51:47] <RoT-> bye
[06:51:50] <TU> YOUR channel?
[06:51:51] <TU> hahaha
[06:51:54] <TU> your so lame it is sad.
Session Close: Mon Jan 20 18:51:57 2003

Session Start: Mon Jan 20 18:53:48 2003
Session Ident: RoT-
[06:53:48] Session Ident: RoT- (rot@sex.monger.org)
[06:53:48] <RoT-> go cry to a newsgroup I dont want to hear it
[06:54:03] <TU> lol
[06:54:05] <TU> i don't care
[06:54:08] <TU> i will sell your shit console
[06:54:15] <TU> and continue my smear campagne
[06:54:23] <TU> one more person that dosn't buy from you the BETTER
[06:55:05] <RoT-> yep too bad we have had so much sales we fucking cant handle it, we had to increase our merchant acoutn 4times.. so go for it..
[06:55:18] <TU> congrats.
[06:55:20] <TU> i don't care though.
[06:55:23] <TU> you fucked me thats gay.
[06:55:29] <TU> your just a bad company
[06:55:30] <TU> he
[06:55:37] <TU> you even sent me back the wrong ps2
[06:55:38] <TU> lol
[06:55:42] <RoT-> I told you a free chip
[06:55:46] <RoT-> I told you a free upgrade
[06:55:52] <RoT-> all you do is smear and act stupid
[06:55:55] <RoT-> now you get perbanned
[06:56:19] <TU> erm.
[06:56:20] <TU> no
[06:56:21] <RoT-> and you can go fuck yourself, I tried to help ya after I found out what my installers put in your system
[06:56:23] <TU> firstly
[06:56:23] <RoT-> and all you do is bitch
[06:56:26] <RoT-> your alittle bitch
[06:56:28] <TU> you NEVER EVER said a free upgrade.
[06:56:29] <TU> heh
[06:56:30] <TU> EVER
[06:56:33] <RoT-> go suck yoru dad off
[06:56:34] <TU> cause you would be fixing my console.
[06:56:35] <TU> he
[06:56:36] <RoT-> enjoy ignore
Session Close: Mon Jan 20 18:56:38 2003

[theunforgiven]

love the customer support and to rot.. since i know your watching...
between you and me.. if your getting so much business why do you resort to kicking people out of chatrooms for talking about your business eh?

[ps374]

I don't encourage violence, but this guy needs someone to put a gun up to his head and blow his fucking brains out, what an arrogent piece of shit, do you remember when "Pavell" made this fake post here promoting HH and at all the other forums he could (most likely ROT) well about a week later the executer forums started up and who do you think got a moderator job "PAVELL" well I made a bunch of posts there about everything .....deleted but I'msure it was him... Don't know if he is still on those forums as I haven't been there since but that would be a good place to have some fun and post the TRUTH about him.....

[theunforgiven]

i seriously think it is at a point where the guy is paying off forums to become a mod to delete the truth which is sad seeing as how low people can really go :-(

[Debby]

The truth is out there, and here :D

Hey ROT, I think now you go bye bye , heh - you're a fucking disgrase to the installes guild.

[derbyman6523]

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[MASK666]

Heh.. My good friend RoT is such a dumbass. I ordered my first xbox mod from him back in the day and then after delay after delay i canceled my order. He said there was no problem and it was toast so I ordered a chip from http://www.extreme-mods.com/ (great site) and got it the next day... 1 week goes by and I still did'nt get my money so I called him on his house phone then left a message.. 3 weeks later I still had not heard a word and then on the 4th week a chip from them was in my mail box.. That extra chip is still collecting dust in my house to this day :(

[theunforgiven]

Whats his HOME phone number?! POST IT!

[MASK666]

I will check my old emails when I get off work today. I am not sure if I still have it but if I do it is yours :) He gave it out when his site first opened up like 2 months before they cracked the xbox.

[theunforgiven]

Sweet. That would kick ass.

[barclayrl]

I cant belive this site is still up. They are a scam

[Kid Buu]

This guy lives in Holland, so am I. Holland is very small, give me a gun and I'll shoot his fucking brains out. Just kidding :D

[psfan]

Wow. That's just amazing. They'll never get my business.

[nick-sales]

The guys real name is LEE BOYD just for everyones info

[nick-sales]

we have loads of info on this scammer including his home address in the US etc so it won't be hard to track this guy down and smash his face in

[theunforgiven]

Post it please.. i want to make sure NO ONE ELSE gets scammed.

[nick-sales]

He was living in Temecula but i should be able to find out if he has moved,this guy is always in Vegas but i suspect he uses a mail drop there or something,i would involve the FBI as the guy is commiting major league fraud!

[theunforgiven]

get his drop nailed then.

[Apocalypse]

Damn, this guy is a major con. I we ever get a hunting party formed for this guy, count me in. I'd love to kick ass........and his face for that matter.
Later.

[theunforgiven]

i wonder why he sent my shit back.. i am guessing i actually was trying to hard :-)...
"We need guns. Lots of guns." ~ Neo

[Apocalypse]

True, true.