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Shout
12-15-2002, 06:39 AM
Problem : Magic3 beta software on a PS2 3003R version 5 PAL

The chip is connected using the 33K resistor across the
resonator and a 33K on the reset line with a 1uF CAP
across +5 and GND.

Problems:
1) With the chip installed the laser clicks three times even on originals.
If I remove the chip it stops.
2) PS2 copies will not boot.
3) PS1 mode works only if I wait for the three clicks and the disk to change
speed two or three times. Holding it down for a couple of seconds on power
up fails.

I have tried the different values for reset from 10K to 33K and even the
15pF CAP, I not to sure about this as wouldn't it kill any DC signal?

I have also changed the 33K resistor across the resonator.

- Removed - doesn't start up.
- 5pF cap across - doesn't start up (checked with a scope).

Reconnect all points and the seem to be OK?

Anybody have any ideas?

Also with the chips fuses shouldn't the fuse 7F2
be 7b2 if IFBD is enabled?

maltloaf
12-15-2002, 06:58 AM
the 15pf cap stops any dc component upsetting the console, it does block the dc, but the chip looks for a change in state i.e. a switch rather than a voltage etc. 90% of the consoles I have done have been using a 15pf cap.

Putting a cap across the resonator will stop it resonating, as the cap effectively short circuits the oscillations. Not a single one of my installs has had a resistor across the resonator, although the sx datasheet does specify 10k ohms for that type of res.

All i can suggest is to recheck all your points and perhaps shorten the wires to the bios chip (mnop etc.)

The clicking problem sounds like you may have a partial short or some flux on the controller chip.

recheck all the cdvd points and expecially between them

thefatroller
12-19-2002, 08:43 PM
Matloaf, when you say flux on the controller chip, which chip do mean and how will this cause a problem?

maltloaf
12-21-2002, 05:21 AM
flux is the stuff contained within solder to help it flow. It leaves a residue that can cause some weird stuff to happen in some circuits, especially highspeed ones.

I'm not saying that is the problem, just something to check.

maltloaf
12-21-2002, 05:22 AM
btw controller chip is your a to i point (on a messiah)

on m3 v5 its bcghi IIRC

thefatroller
12-26-2002, 10:10 PM
thanks for the advice matloaf, the reason I was checking is i use extra flux. Do you not recomend this?