homemade Gamecube chip? or use cobra or something like it loaded from pso?

[Peppers]

I want to be able to play gamecube game backups from a dvd like with the viper with the cobra bios
but I dont want to buy that chip cause the people that made it are involved with a group I dont like and it apperintley if a rip off of someone elses work


could someone point me in the direction of how to pull that off? pls :-pray:

thank you

[Peppers]

so there is no outher option?

damit ill wait

[Kurd]

There are People working on ecrypting the Bios, then it should be possible use it with PSO...
http://forums.maxconsole.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3199

[Peppers]

thanks

[Thinkdiff]

There was no ripping done. One dude just figured out the points on the motherboard that you need to use to override the BIOS. He never even knew you COULD override the BIOS. Until 2 days ago he said it was impossible to do it. When the Cobra BIOS came out, he actually admitted that he was wrong. It's just like how every modchip uses basically the same points to get to the board. They're just points. The people that made Viper didn't rip anything else off that guy. But yes, the Viper is made by a questionable team and so is the Cobra BIOS, which Is holding me back from buying a viper.

[Peppers]

simmaler software like the cobra bios should be able to run from pso and do the same thing because the gamecubes bios doesn't stay resident after it boots the dvd so a dol would be almost just like bios as far as the gameqube is conserned

its onley a matter of time before someone make it I knew that much from what I know about the gameqube before I started this topic it would not be wise to buy one

[<G>]

well this is just a sick quick and dirty theory that does not go into detail and to be honest i didnt think this through. IPL replacement can dump the ram. If a viper is installed in a gc and the cobra bios auth'd and then executed from ram then bingo. instant decryption using the the ipl replacement stuff. This as long as the ipl replacement does not conflict with the viper. Lots of ps2 mods are actually ripped with simillar methods.

The homebrew community only needs one bios. with one decrypted bios they can re-create and build upon the work that they reverse.

[Thinkdiff]

tmbinc (the guy that made the original IPL replacement) and a few others over at Dextrose are working on extracting the code from the Viper so they can make it into a DOL.. Now, I know Cobra is made by some bad people.. but it seems to me they're doing the same thing everybody is getting upset about on the PS2 scene. If they successfully decrypt cobra's file, anybody could make a modchip or a modchip would not even be required with PSO. This would take a lot of money from the development that went into the Viper and Cobra.

[xiaNaix]

Glad to hear it. You should support tmbinc in his efforts. These other guys do not deserve to make money off another scene.

[Peppers]

tmbinc (the guy that made the original IPL replacement) and a few others over at Dextrose are working on extracting the code from the Viper so they can make it into a DOL.. Now, I know Cobra is made by some bad people.. but it seems to me they're doing the same thing everybody is getting upset about on the PS2 scene. If they successfully decrypt cobra's file, anybody could make a modchip or a modchip would not even be required with PSO. This would take a lot of money from the development that went into the Viper and Cobra.


monopolies are bad for us viper is overprised

I wish the skilled hackers working on it much luck

when it is done those that know about it please post the newz here so everyboady will know

[Thinkdiff]

Don't get me wrong, I would love to live in tmbinc's world of building your own mod for 10-20 bucks from radioshack, or even having a lower priced chip (say 30 bucks). I would love to see these guys fool *** (oops, did I say that) and get a free-to-use Cobra BIOS out there and see some good people make some chips. But You can't deny that the team did do a lot of R&D into their chip and BIOS and they do deserve some credit.

[Peppers]

why they dont give credit to those they "barrowed" from

[The 1]

TMBInc made the IPL replacement a long time ago now. No one took advantage of his work. Viper, or ***, then took advantage of this it seems, using the idea, possibly the code and information he provided. The chip may do different things but it is largely the same thing.

I for one am completely opposed to the Viper GC Mod and the Cobra BIOs. I have been and will be speaking to TMBInc and following his progress. If you want a better and cheaper solution then wait, if you can't wait then buy a Viper but you willbe disappointed. If you are a true Gamecube fan then you have been waiting for years for a mod, waiting an extra month shouldn't be too much of a struggle.

I will not deny that the Cobra developers have made significant progress in their work and surprised many of the best developers but I do not support it and will not support it in the future.

In regards to evidence saying it is a completely different mod to TMBInc's work there were internal mods made by the homebrew developers of the Gamecube scene that resemble the Viper, but I will not go into detail here.

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[<G>]

tmbinc (the guy that made the original IPL replacement) and a few others over at Dextrose are working on extracting the code from the Viper so they can make it into a DOL.. Now, I know Cobra is made by some bad people.. but it seems to me they're doing the same thing everybody is getting upset about on the PS2 scene. If they successfully decrypt cobra's file, anybody could make a modchip or a modchip would not even be required with PSO. This would take a lot of money from the development that went into the Viper and Cobra.


very true, i never condone cloning. not even of *** stuff.

[Peppers]

I could be wrong and I probably am
but it seems to me that all the cobra bios do is let the gamecube load a gamecube disk then makes it stop spinning then runs whatever is the gc equiveallent of a default.executable file off disk on button press would that really be all that hard for a veteran gc programmer to make?

all you would have to do next is disable the lid sencer so it dose not recheck the swaped disk

if im wrong pls correct me

[The 1]

It does a lot more than that. It's hard to tell exactly what it does at the moment, but once it is decrypted we will know more.

Nice to see more people getting involved with the Gamecube scene... Sadly it's only happening because of the Viper GC Mod... Oh well!

[Peppers]

could you explain to me why that would not work?

[The 1]

For all those interested I have posted an exclusive interview with tmbinc regarding recent events on www.gcdemos.com

Peppers - In regard to your question, it would not have taken 3 years to work out that all we needed to do is stop the disc. The freeloader stops the disc and allows a swap but does not allow copies or dvd-r to be booted. It is very complicated, it even still confuses tmbinc and Costis.

[Thinkdiff]

Can't wait to see what tmbinc's mod is like.

[The 1]

The Gamecube disc has a lot of protection on it. It is not as simple as swapping. Look at the bottom of the Gamecube disc, for one there is a barcode etched into the disc which, if you have the lid off, you can see is checked first. Put in a dvd-r game without the lid on when a disc is not spinning and the laser will look for the barcode, when it is not found the Gamecube stops the disc and gives you an error.

People have been testing thousands of methods to see if they could swap in a dvd-r or mini-dvd-r and have failed every time. Whoever is working on this mod would've released a simple sensor clip if it were that simple.