View Full Version : MX4 released from MATRIX TEAM
villasg
12-09-2004, 05:56 AM
New mod in the scene.
This is the replacement of MXL2.
Same pcb as the infinity.
Looks great.
I go for the tests for this mod.--->MX4 (http://www.grmods.com/villasg/MX.gif)
:dance:
jemico
12-09-2004, 06:25 AM
LOL Look's like more that it is a infinity clone. ;)
If you look at the chip's it is manufactured week 39 on this year so that is almost 3 month's a go! lol
charlie12
12-09-2004, 10:09 AM
There's been no mention of this on the official Matrix site. Looks like a fake clone
necrolop
12-09-2004, 10:20 AM
Well look whos pushing it. The same person whos selling them. Hah!
villasg
12-09-2004, 11:53 AM
Well look whos pushing it. The same person whos selling them. Hah!
Dont attack to me please.
Is original from MATRIX TEAM.
They (matrix team) have not it anticipates to upload the infos.
Please wait awhile . :) :) :)
villasg
12-09-2004, 11:54 AM
There's been no mention of this on the official Matrix site. Looks like a fake clone
If you are sure 100% report please this in the matrix team.
its probably from http://www.matrixmod.com/ not from http://www.matrix-mod.com/. What many of you mod n00bs or so called mod experts dont know is that the matrix team split up some time ago. Both sides are quite well known for ripping other modchips. This is also where all of that fake mxl2 nonsense came about from. Most people paint the matrix-mod guys as being saints or great guys. Nothing could be further from the truth. Both groups are some some really shady guys. now you know another reason why i stay away from infinity stuff.
villasg
12-09-2004, 02:31 PM
its probably from http://www.matrixmod.com/ not from http://www.matrix-mod.com/. What many of you mod n00bs or so called mod experts dont know is that the matrix team split up some time ago. Both sides are quite well known for ripping other modchips. This is also where all of that fake mxl2 nonsense came about from. Most people paint the matrix-mod guys as being saints or great guys. Nothing could be further from the truth. Both groups are some some really shady guys. now you know another reason why i stay away from infinity stuff.
Sorry but iam resseler of infinitymod ( http://www.infinitymod.com/ ) aka http://www.matrix-mod.com .
I take ONLY original MATRIXes.
jemico
12-09-2004, 03:07 PM
I take all my words back!!!
The matrix team just confurmed this is true! They will release a new website within the next 24h they say to me. (they did not say anything about the furtures)
Greetz
villasg
12-09-2004, 03:29 PM
:applaud: :applaud:
;)
i wonder wat features it will have...
pilsentico
12-09-2004, 04:00 PM
i think maybe the same features of Matrix Infinity maybe.......
does look like theres a upgradeable flash on the pcb
pilsentico
12-09-2004, 04:24 PM
yes and autoboot feature must be there........
so anyone think this maybe a replacement for the actual matrix infinity????
precisionmods
12-09-2004, 05:02 PM
its probably from http://www.matrixmod.com/ not from http://www.matrix-mod.com/. What many of you mod n00bs or so called mod experts dont know is that the matrix team split up some time ago. Both sides are quite well known for ripping other modchips. This is also where all of that fake mxl2 nonsense came about from. Most people paint the matrix-mod guys as being saints or great guys. Nothing could be further from the truth. Both groups are some some really shady guys. now you know another reason why i stay away from infinity stuff.
Geez, at this point, are there any original modmakers any longer? Aren't all the current versions of mods rips of the Neo4/Origa combo? :banghead:
its probably from http://www.matrixmod.com/ not from http://www.matrix-mod.com/. What many of you mod n00bs or so called mod experts dont know is that the matrix team split up some time ago. Both sides are quite well known for ripping other modchips. This is also where all of that fake mxl2 nonsense came about from. Most people paint the matrix-mod guys as being saints or great guys. Nothing could be further from the truth. Both groups are some some really shady guys. now you know another reason why i stay away from infinity stuff.
So who is responsible for the creation of Matrix Infinity? matrix-mod.com?
pilsentico
12-09-2004, 08:18 PM
the specs of the chip looks like a matrix infinity
So who is responsible for the creation of Matrix Infinity? matrix-mod.com?
yeah
9HOMERSIMPSON9
12-10-2004, 07:29 AM
Geez, at this point, are there any original modmakers any longer? Aren't all the current versions of mods rips of the Neo4/Origa combo?
You got it in ONE!
EVERY modchip creator got there code from the VERY early modchips! And then built on them.
From the D M $ team to the Infinity team! They ALL do it!
In many people eyes the RIPPER 3 is a clone because it stole its code from the infinity.
But the infinity team stole theres and added to it!
A chip is only a clone in my eyes in a few ways!
1, If it looks IDENTICAL or VERY CLOSE to the original chip, or
2, If it uses its name!
The ripper done neither.
alexo
12-10-2004, 10:17 AM
EVERY modchip creator got there code from the VERY early modchips! And then built on them.It is called "progress".
In many people eyes the RIPPER 3 is a clone because it stole its code from the infinity.
But the infinity team stole theres and added to it!"Stealing" this, "stealing" that...
What happened to "sharing"?
Look at the scientific community. Nobody complians that Feynman "stole" from Dirac who "stole" from Heisenberg who "stole" from Schrödinger who "stole" from Bohr who "stole" from Einstein who "stole" from Planck...
The open source community also managed to get over the concept, choosing cooperation over egomania. Hell, just look at GNU, Linux, *BSD, Mozilla, Gnutella, Bit Torrent...
I guess the mod-chip communnity needs to mature.
Learn to recognize the enemy (hint: it is not a competing group).
Peace!
villasg
12-10-2004, 02:38 PM
If you are look for diagrams spec etc. ------>
Will be on their website later today. (www.infinitymod.com)
:dance:
Ryuuga
12-10-2004, 02:44 PM
It is called "progress".
"Stealing" this, "stealing" that...
What happened to "sharing"?
Look at the scientific community. Nobody complians that Feynman "stole" from Dirac who "stole" from Heisenberg who "stole" from Schrödinger who "stole" from Bohr who "stole" from Einstein who "stole" from Planck...
The open source community also managed to get over the concept, choosing cooperation over egomania. Hell, just look at GNU, Linux, *BSD, Mozilla, Gnutella, Bit Torrent...
I guess the mod-chip communnity needs to mature.
Learn to recognize the enemy (hint: it is not a competing group).
Peace!
Sorry if this is regarded spamming.
Just wanted to say that this was an awesome post.
And i fully agree with with Alexo :applaud: :ups:
wong72
12-10-2004, 05:05 PM
It is called "progress".
"Stealing" this, "stealing" that...
What happened to "sharing"?
Look at the scientific community. Nobody complians that Feynman "stole" from Dirac who "stole" from Heisenberg who "stole" from Schrödinger who "stole" from Bohr who "stole" from Einstein who "stole" from Planck...
The open source community also managed to get over the concept, choosing cooperation over egomania. Hell, just look at GNU, Linux, *BSD, Mozilla, Gnutella, Bit Torrent...
I guess the mod-chip communnity needs to mature.
Learn to recognize the enemy (hint: it is not a competing group).
Peace!
Thats a great post, i never looked at it that way before. Good thinking my friend.
Unfinity
12-10-2004, 07:08 PM
you guys are so funny. Ripping out code from another device and stuffing it into another chip is lame. That's not progress, that's not sharing. Scientists don't take someone else's research paper, stick it in with their own notes and say "Look at my discovery!" That is theft, that is lame.
In regard to open-source, this also is not applicable. open-source software is made by people who CHOOSE to share their codes. They have no problem with other people using the code because that is what they intended. Many of those people who do open-source software also have commercial jobs. Do you think they'd be cool with their commercial works being taken? No they wouldn't, because that is theft of their work.
And finally, Sony is not the enemy. They make the console that this whole scene is based around, how does that make them the enemy? Are they the enemy because they protect their hardware/software??
I agree that the scene needs to mature but this also includes posts like yours which make ignorant and just plain stupid assumptions and conclusions. Sharing is the concept of willingly giving your code/knowledge/whatever to others. Stealing is taking something from someone else without their permission, that which you have no right to. It's so crazy when people say this leads to progress. Time and time again we see what this really leads to: shitty clones that do nothing more than the original. These manufacturers are not your friends, people! They aren't ripping other chips in the name of "progress". They do it because it's a hell of alot easier to base your stuff off someone else's work than it is to do it yourself. When you don't have development costs, you can sell stuff alot cheaper than people who DO have costs. And where does that end up? The people with the dev costs are not making enough money to cover their costs and still make adequate profit so no new innovations occur. So much for progress..
I don't expect most of you to care about such things, nor do I really care if you care. What bothers me is when people talk stupidity about how this is "progress" and "good for the scene". Just look at the "progress" Ripper chips bring to the scene. Trash quality, no innovation, bullshit claims.
You guys are damn stupid and ignorant. Most of you really do belong at pwnz. Your just as stupid as he is. This is exactly why there are no real innovations in the scene but you complain so much that it isnt like this in the xbox scene. They all use the xbox bios to run their junk. I dont think you see microsoft going around talking about "sharing" their bios for the good of the scene do you?
ack you beat me to it unfinity
lol
I don't blame them for thinking that way. Maybe they just don't understand what goes into making a modchip and the man hours required to get it working. After you get it to work you have some guy out there ripping your code then selling it and you don't get one penny of it. Not everyone is a thinker =).
-phoenixxx-
12-10-2004, 07:39 PM
I feel your pain unfinity :(
http://www.teamxecuter.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=108
There's your xbox sharing!
stupid lamers....
9HOMERSIMPSON9
12-10-2004, 08:12 PM
T07N:
Its not really your code if you ripped it from someone before you!
9HOMERSIMPSON9
12-10-2004, 08:14 PM
Also, all i said was that in some peoples eyes the ripper is a CLONE because it stole its code!
But stealing codes does not make your chip a clone, otherwise basically EVERY modchip out there would be a clone.
But i do FULLY understand what you are saying Unifinity :)
Homer, there is a big difference between using someone's basic code to build upon and ripping the code completely and making a modchip outta it without any major modification.
alexo
12-10-2004, 10:21 PM
Wow, talk about being off the mark...
Ripping out code from another device and stuffing it into another chip is lame. That's not progress, that's not sharing. Scientists don't take someone else's research paper, stick it in with their own notes and say "Look at my discovery!" That is theft, that is lame.Granted. But I was commenting on 9HOMERSIMPSON9's observation that newer code is based on older one.
So yes, "progress" implies improvement, not wholesale copying.
In regard to open-source, this also is not applicable. open-source software is made by people who CHOOSE to share their codes.Which is exactly my point.
If the various groups chose to cooperate, we would have much better products.
They have no problem with other people using the code because that is what they intended. Many of those people who do open-source software also have commercial jobs. Do you think they'd be cool with their commercial works being taken? No they wouldn't, because that is theft of their work.Try to read my comments in context. You will find that we agree more often than not.
Oh, by the way, copying someone's work without permission is usually called "copyright violation", not "theft". Note that I am not saying that it is legal or Morally justified (it is a subject I prefer not to get into) but let's get the terminology straight.
Back on topic, I understand that the Crystal chip is "open source". If that is so, it is indeed a step in the right direction.
And finally, Sony is not the enemy. They make the console that this whole scene is based around, how does that make them the enemy? Are they the enemy because they protect their hardware/software??Where did I imply that Sony (or, specifically, Sony's games division) are the enemy?
What I had in mind was Walt Kelly's famous quote "We have met the enemy and he is us."
However, if you need a tangible "enemy", I suppose that those that wish to limit your fair use rights (for example, the right to make backups for personal use) can serve as one. But then, I live in Canada and at the moment we have a different interpretation of what "fair use" means than the US.
I agree that the scene needs to mature but this also includes posts like yours which make ignorant and just plain stupid assumptions and conclusions.Funny, I was not the one making assumptions.
Sharing is the concept of willingly giving your code/knowledge/whatever to others.Once again, we are in agreement.
And since some people are quick to jump to conclusions, I'll summarize:
Sharing good; profiting from the work of others, without permission and without giving anything in return, bad.
Cooperation and mutual respect good; egotism, laziness and lying bad.
Peace.
alexo
12-11-2004, 11:42 AM
Sorry that I took this thread off topic.
I didn't intend to start a flame war.
So, in an attempt to bring the discussion back to the topic at hand,
I went to the InfinityMod (http://www.infinitymod.com) site and saw no mention of the MX4.
Is there any official information available?
i think its just time to close this junk thread.
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