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SledDog
11-16-2002, 07:06 PM
... to the show that never ends,
We're so glad you could attend,
Come inside, come inside...
:cool: - ELP


Greetings and Salutations to everyone who has recently found their way here, either out of curiosity or forced exile. ;)

I don't expect it, but I hope some of you folks recall me from the time and efforts I put in over at 0wnz before I was unceremoniously given the boot about six months ago. I'm also known for having a wacky and sometimes "biting" sense of humor, but anyway, the janitor has asked me to say a few words, so here goes...


The underlying philosophy of this place is based on an open and uncensored exchange of information, ideas, and opinions. Unlike other forums on the net, we strive to be impartial and beholding to no one, i.e. we are not associated with our own commercial website, we do not have a hidden agenda in marketing our own goods, we don't make you wade through scads of kick-back banners, we attempt to review samples sent to us in a timely and straight-forward fashion by known professionals, and you can basically speak freely (within the realm of common sense and common courtesy) without fear of repercussions. In short, we're rather unique...

In the few short months since we've opened the doors, we feel we've been able to adhere to this philosophy fairly well. In doing so, we slowly found this place attracting some of the more established and reliable names in "the scene", not to mention folks just like yourself. So, whether you're a recent newcomer or have been a mainstay in another venue, don't worry. We're all equals here and the post counter is off so that the playing field remains level (which is the way it should be.) Your character is far more important than your (post count) reputation...

ps2newz and it's forums exist for you - the membership at large. It's not here to feed our egos or fill our wallets, but rather to quench a person's thirst for knowledge on a variety of subjects. So, if you can take a moment every now and then to assist a fellow member where you can, then feel free to jump in and do so, as no one person knows everything and we all stand to benefit. We also made sure we have a great SQL keyword Search function to help you quickly locate any particular past or present topic or item of interest without having post and then wait for an answer. There's a lot of "buried treasure" here, so consider the Search button your personal shovel.

Finally, every now and then we all get dragged into situations not of our own making. Such is life and so it has been as of late, with rumors of a "war" existing between here and other places. Yeah, we're human and we get pissed off and vent at times, just like you, but overall, the folks who work hard behind the scenes here believe you're intelligent people who are more than capable of forming your own opinions and drawing your own conclusions. Loyalty, capitulation, and subservience are not prerequisites for your continued participation and membership here. Got a problem with something here? Feel fee to air it in a reasonable and mature fashion as we're not perfect, but we won't attempt to sweep it under the rug.

It's a truism that what goes around, comes around over the course of time.


Ack! Enough outta me already. Again, welcome and enjoy the time you choose to spend here.

Happy upcoming holidays to all, eh?

necrolop
11-16-2002, 07:21 PM
Yes I remember our compitition at Ownz hehe, and some of your philosophy that you shared with me. Glad to be here.

RSX_Integra
11-16-2002, 07:37 PM
uhhh.. tat was long ...

glad to be here. :)

balto.... i remember.. wut happened to u?

SledDog
11-16-2002, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by necrolop
Yes I remember our compitition at Ownz hehe, and some of your philosophy that you shared with me. Glad to be here.

LOL We never had a "competition" at Ownz, nec, but I do recall a few emails to someone at that time, tactfully trying to explain the difference between asking decent questions and posting informative responses as opposed to slapping up any old reply in youthful over-zealousness with an eye on one's post count as opposed to being truly helpful... ;)

Anyway, that's water under the bridge. Good to see you here too, eh?

SledDog
11-16-2002, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by RSX_Integra
uhhh.. tat was long ...

LOL I'll try to keep in mind that 3 paragraphs is your limit... ;)

glad to be here. :)

and it's good to see you again too, as well as sa few of the other old familiar nyms I recall from bygone days

balto.... i remember.. wut happened to u?

In short? Sent a private email to Z about him outting people's IP addresses in public. He replied I should mind my own business. I in turn replied that if he couldn't handle a little commentary and criticism I couldn't wait for the self-proclaimed Billy Gates II to graduate, get married, and have in-laws. Mere minutes later, my 500+ posts and I were history and Z made up one of his typical self-serving bullshit stories to placate the masses. His loss, not mine...

Afterwards, I received an invite from xiaNaix and Guichi to come help revamp xiaNaix's old place and I've been here ever since.
So tell me, do you like what we've done with the carpeting...? :D

charlie_ps2
11-16-2002, 08:21 PM
Still a few stains on the Carpet Balto!

ian
11-16-2002, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by Guichi

Ive even heard that Sepiroth may bring back ps2modchips.com which is also great. :)


Yeah, he might reopen, but he says he will if he has some supporters and if most ex members still want ps2modchips.com back. So I hope everyone here wants another friendly forum around. :)

RSX_Integra
11-16-2002, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by Balto
LOL I'll try to keep in mind that 3 paragraphs is your limit...

appreciate it ;)

lol

RSX

necrolop
11-17-2002, 01:05 AM
I was most definatly not a Newbie at the time Balto thank you very much.

SledDog
11-17-2002, 02:33 AM
Originally posted by necrolop
I was most definatly not a Newbie at the time Balto thank you very much.

:rolleyes: Look, I'm not in the mood to get into with you, nec, but the just of what I mentioned held more than a kernal of truth.
Either way, believe whatever makes you feel comfortable within your own skin, eh?

necrolop
11-17-2002, 02:45 AM
Is that an insult? I cant tell. I was just pointing out that I was not a newb at the time is all, nothing else.


I mean no insult, but please dont say i was a Noobie dude. Ive been doing PS2 just as long as you.

SledDog
11-17-2002, 04:10 AM
Originally posted by necrolop
Is that an insult? I cant tell. I was just pointing out that I was not a newb at the time is all, nothing else.


I mean no insult, but please dont say i was a Noobie dude. Ive been doing PS2 just as long as you.

Go re-read the original. Feel better? Cool...

Jan Lee
11-17-2002, 07:41 AM
Happy Holidays to you guys too.

Limbfilter
11-17-2002, 09:22 PM
Thank you for the welcome Balto. I'm also glad to see most everyone else here as well. I also see that necrolop still hasn't learned what a joke is and takes things far too personally..:lol: How ya doin' Nec?;)

necrolop
11-17-2002, 09:40 PM
Well just thought Id get some respect here unlike I did at Ownz.

necrolop
11-17-2002, 10:16 PM
I thought I did at Ownz, but I never got any back.

Alec
11-18-2002, 07:59 AM
Just thought I'd post, since I was one of those "transferring" memers. Appriciate the welcome and all, but I would have rather it gone unnoticed....but that's just me.

Calm down, necro. :)

Limbfilter
11-18-2002, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by necrolop
Well just thought Id get some respect here unlike I did at Ownz.
You have my respect Necrolop as I've told you before but you assume that everyone is out to get you and that no one else is right but you. And you take that personally.

Here Nec,
/me passes Necrolop a beer.;) :D

Jan Lee
11-18-2002, 06:40 PM
http://216.40.249.192/mysmilies/ups/dvx_rune/innocent.gif Nothing wrong being... (see the attachment "smile") http://jeeptalk.org/crack/smilies/contrib/scorchio/sgrin.gif

c0zen
11-19-2002, 11:31 AM
you guys are making me all emotional -sniff-
:cry:
hehehehe

Limbfilter
11-19-2002, 02:39 PM
c0zen!!!
What's the shizzle my nizzle?!?!?

charlie_ps2
11-20-2002, 08:15 PM
Where's Gaz?

RSX_Integra
11-20-2002, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by charlie_ps2
Where's Gaz?

In florida...

He is visiting there..

seems that he needs it after breaking a finger and an xbox :(

anyways



RSX

Boba_Fett
11-23-2002, 01:03 PM
Aww damn... *squints* MY EYES! I'm so used to PS2ownz black background with orange text;) Anyways, I just came along here to see what all the fuss is/was about, (and the PS2ownz forums seem to be down at the moment). I just thought it was weird how everybody seemed to be "defecting" from ownz to newz but after reading a few posts I seem to understand why. Interesting. Oh Balto, I remember Z's explination on banning you, he said that you simpily e-mailed him telling him to ban you. I always wondered what reason you had for doing that:confused: guess now I know the real story. Glad to see you're still in da scene. I think I will continue to post at both sites now, I really like the layout here:D

SledDog
11-23-2002, 05:41 PM
Yo Boba! Glad you dropped by and good to see another familar face...

Help
11-24-2002, 01:01 AM
hey yall whats up. just saying hey.

fooniman
11-30-2002, 05:23 PM
where's snoop?
thx for the hospitality Balto!
i shifted here after Z banned me, i got banned for saying i dont pity for the WTC, what a ... ehhmm...
well i'm dedicating meself to this site now other than that hellhole of a forum, which Z ruled as satan!

Gazdaman
12-03-2002, 03:35 PM
I agree, newz is streets ahead of ownz. The people here are so welcoming, all names I knew of. When guichi invited me in to see the next big thing happening to the ps2 scene.

been nice to be a part of it.

Gaz

2 Tru CReW
12-04-2002, 01:08 PM
Heheh well I dunno how I came over this palce. I was on the net one night and signed up at the board on the old site before it got shut down. Anyhows I wasnt sent a activation link thus forgot about it. Then I got an email saying about the new website so I visited and re-signed and it werked. Then I found out about ownz, saw what it was like and when charlie was banned I was outta there :D :P

Je4d_r3pryz3n4z
12-04-2002, 07:45 PM
Am I In The Rite Place ?.... Hahah AnyHoo... Waddup All !!
*Raises Hand And Waves At Ignoring Crowd*

prevch
12-04-2002, 08:06 PM
ahh balto, thanks for all the dvd images you posted at abcip.dvdiso :)

i knew you're name was familar... :D

Alec
12-04-2002, 11:10 PM
That's Balto from HERE? I thought it might have been but I wasn't sure.

Yes, thanks. :)

SledDog
12-05-2002, 01:18 AM
Yup, tis me, the one and only, Alec. I know of you from there too, prevch. Glad to see you and a few of the other NG folks here too. I just wish we could straighten out the way Carbon Copy (Kemikals2003) posts, but there's always one mofo in every crowd I guess. Maybe we'll get lucky and he'll flunk out of school and have to go back to his mom's Comcast connection... ;)

Boba_Fett
12-08-2002, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by fooniman

i shifted here after Z banned me, i got banned for saying i dont pity for the WTC, what a ... ehhmm...


Well, might as well start some controversy while I'm here. fooniman, if you did truely say that I would have personally banned you myself if I had the power. That's a pretty damn sick thing to say...

Limbfilter
12-09-2002, 03:23 PM
As usual I have to agree with boba...Why bother saying it? And if you don't have pity for people who get murdered for no reason then you have problems.

Kemikals 2003
12-19-2002, 08:30 PM
Not FLUNKIN this semester ... 3.75 baby ... heheheheh ... 1 more credit and I will be a CHEMIST!

<<Carbon Copy>> / Kemikals 2003

thetieger
12-19-2002, 09:32 PM
well me, KRIKOR1234 from freking ps2ownz, got banned for NO APPEARENT reason, except sticking up for necrolop, when he did nothing wrong!

Z can suck the big one!

thetieger
12-19-2002, 09:32 PM
and im sure he does every single night ;)

thnx for the hospitality here, u guys have great forums!

Purple Penguin
12-19-2002, 10:02 PM
I stuck up for Necrolop and I didn't get banned, my posts just got deleted...

thetieger
12-19-2002, 10:13 PM
they try to silence us,

NEVER!!!

Boba_Fett
12-19-2002, 11:22 PM
Did you guys know that Necrolop has been temporarily banned from PS2ownz (before he got the permanent boot) before for bad conduct? I have ZERO against ol' Necro but jeeze, the guy just can't keep his mouth shut. I don't exactly know what got him banned but Z probably had a good reason... Can't we all just get along?

necrolop
12-20-2002, 12:49 AM
You know absolutely nothing about what happened Bobafett, absolutely nothing.

thetieger
12-20-2002, 12:53 AM
yes, it was WAY more complicated, then u seem to understand. Z trys to make people believe that he has "good reasons" for banning us, but the truth is anyone who contridicted him, even slightly got the BOOT, ask many ppl on this forum! infact i will start a thread called "who got banned fro ownz" there will probly be like 100 replies! he went crazy towards the end :lol: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :confused:

Boba_Fett
12-20-2002, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by necrolop
You know absolutely nothing about what happened Bobafett, absolutely nothing.

Please enlighten me then. I know enough to the fact that you definitely arn't perfect in this whole ordeal...

Boba_Fett
12-20-2002, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by thetieger
yes, it was WAY more complicated, then u seem to understand. Z trys to make people believe that he has "good reasons" for banning us, but the truth is anyone who contridicted him, even slightly got the BOOT, ask many ppl on this forum! infact i will start a thread called "who got banned fro ownz" there will probly be like 100 replies! he went crazy towards the end :lol: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :confused:

Didn't Purple Penguin stand up for Necro and didn't get the boot? Hell, I've even stood up to Z before when he banned S.T.A.R.S. but I didn't get booted. Maybe if you guys, um, showed a little class and typed with some decency when you were arguing you wouldn't of been banned. Then again, I know some of you had the intention of getting banned in the first place. I'm not flaming anybody here, just trying to figure out what the hell drove everybody to do this.

Cpt_Obvious
12-20-2002, 12:49 PM
Arrrrrrrrrr! Looky 'ere! A Dead Horse!!! Let's all gather around and beat on it some more!!! har har har

thetieger
12-20-2002, 12:55 PM
please dont start this all over again, i could type pages about what happend. but do i really have to?

Boba_Fett
12-20-2002, 01:17 PM
Very interesting... Thanks for clearing that up for me Guichi. While I haven't heard Z say that himself (Only being in the scene to make $$$) I have nothing wrong with a little entrepreneurship on his part. He essentially started the whole scene himself didn't he? I don't know. I like both forums (ownz and newz) so I think I will still continue to post both here and there. I honestly don't think he's out to screw anybody $$$ wise but what you said about ownz's retailers not getting their refunds is a startiling revelation. I wonder what Z has to say about this himself...

Boba_Fett
12-20-2002, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by Guichi



Your kidding right? There were tons of pages before ps2ownz NOT including all of the jp pages that were out there fully supporting the early japanese units. ps2scene,ps2-scene and the old ps2newz to name just a few were all around before 'Zimas USA ps2dev page' was ever around. XiaNaixs old page also had most of the news first including the first announcement of the neo mods and the origa brothers personally announcing the origa chip on his forums.




Yeah. I guess I should have worded that differently (I forgot to say the American scene). I was under the impression that Z was one of the first if not the first to get the scene going. I guess what I heard was wrong. Thanks again for clearing that up. Keep up the good work around here.

thetieger
12-20-2002, 05:42 PM
Bovva fet, plz PLZ! stop looking at Z as god!! lol, hes not that big of a deal....

2 Tru CReW
12-20-2002, 06:18 PM
I stood up for the members against Z, I got banned.
Lets start a word association thread!!!

I start -
Z - fu**ing pr**k :)

Boba_Fett
12-20-2002, 07:38 PM
Originally posted by thetieger
Bovva fet, plz PLZ! stop looking at Z as god!! lol, hes not that big of a deal....

First of all, I look at noone as God except for God Himself. Second, the reason for my recent inquiries was for nothing more than a little insight on what the hell happened between ownz and newz. I consider Z as a very influential member of the scene, nothing more. Is the only reason you hate him because he banned you? Anyways, I'm done. Thanks for filling me in on your half of the story guys.

2 Tru CReW
12-20-2002, 07:48 PM
Who me? No, just everyone hates him and no one likes him except for his basement pixy friends - I just go with the flow :lol:

Just you wait - you'll find out soon.
BTW ask Z why I got banned then? I got banned cos I asked him why he wasn't telling the truth to his members - see waht he says.

Boba_Fett
12-20-2002, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by 2 Tru CReW
Who me? No, just everyone hates him and no one likes him except for his basement pixy friends - I just go with the flow :lol:

Hmm... no wonder you got banned...

Boba_Fett
12-20-2002, 07:54 PM
Originally posted by Guichi
thats fine i suppose, im sure all you see here is alot of flaming. Lets see you get your take on why all of this happened from Z himself now that you got our half of the story. :lol:

knowing him he will delete the post, close it immediately or just ban you for it.

I got the jist of what happened at ownz when the shit was hitting the fans, so to speak. I honestly don't know who to trust as I've always felt welcome at ownz. This place is pretty cool too... I will ponder this some more after I play a little more Shinobi.

2 Tru CReW
12-20-2002, 08:05 PM
I have edited my prevous post for oyu. Go look and you find out why I got banned. I even have screenshots of the post.

thetieger
12-20-2002, 09:12 PM
LOL 2 tru......its over :( i jus say F*ck Z, his site is going to sh!t now that its all ps2 covers, and advertisements......