Matrix Infinity

[silentlight]

Anyone installed them yet? Or are the install diagrams still unavailable?

[KaISeR SoZEi]

yep, installation picture will follow soon ;)

[9HOMERSIMPSON9]

Yes i have,

What version PS2 would you like the installation diagram for???

Pal or NTSC?

[Chip&Chop]

I will get mine only Tuesday next :(

[FrEEzEr]

So how is the chip?

I just got a new ps2 so i need a chip and now i must choose between a dms3, infinity and the 02.

[Chip&Chop]

Installations diagrams are in new website:
http://www.infinitymod.com/matrix/

Regards,
Chip&Chop.

[9HOMERSIMPSON9]

This is an excellent mod.

Once i installed it, i turned on the PS2 and it did not work!
I said to myself ohhh fuck, but i went over the install again
and doubled up the main gnd/rst etc wires and it worked fine.

Without having to change modes to get all media types too work
is excellent, its like all your back-ups are original without changing modes.

my 2 cents.

9homersimpson9

[dac2]

You just need to use AWG 24 for GND only, and should be less than 1.5cm (if possible).

All the rest can be AWG 30 (standard wire for modding).

Of course, the wires must be good quality.

DAC

PS: This one is compatible with 10000/15000 & 18000 models, but needs to be tested. I'll do it when I got one these old and pretty rare models.

[dac2]

Don't forget Y point is CLK (clock). ;)

DAC

[dac2]

Someone told this modchip isn't flashable.

Wrong!

This one is flashable. With 512Kb flashrom.

Cannot see that little IC with 8 pins ? Is this one.

DAC

[cyphorblock]

Hi All,

Installed a sample around 2 weeks ago and it does exactly what it says on the tin.
Everything I threw at it loaded, PSX, DVD Movie (Any Region) and PS2 titles without any Reset presses etc.

[9HOMERSIMPSON9]

I know what wire too use,

but i had no awg 22 left (its not 24 i use) so i took a chance and just used the awg 30, but had too end up doubleing it up.

[milerwan]

I've just fitted INFINITY mod in V10 model and it looks like this... ;)

Who have succeeded launching PS2Reality Mediaplayer from memory card?

How do I proceed to? :confused:

I've successfully installed the program in MC but impossible to boot it. :(

[foundmy]

Aerick: ya good test suggestion.

I know I will be getting my stock around tuesday. that will be one of the tests i will be doing, just inserting different media types and seeing how it handles all that.

[milerwan]

On v10, successful disc detection and boot anytime.

Another question...? :cool:

[FrEEzEr]

http://www.infinitymod.com/matrix/

Doesn't work for me :(

[milerwan]

Originally posted by FrEEzEr
http://www.infinitymod.com/matrix/

Doesn't work for me :(
Show me picture of your install.

[9HOMERSIMPSON9]

Any thing i through at it, it boots it no problem.

From browser or from reset.

[9HOMERSIMPSON9]

NO NO NO!!!

If a chip is crap, then its crap!!!

I would not try and sell it incase i get alot off comebacks from them!!!

Im very happy with this new mod. I dont have any problems with it at the moment!!!
If i do incounter ANY problems at all i would not hesitate to tell people, but it has played any game that i have tryed so far + it played all the dvd films i tryed.
I have not tryed booting the same game a few times or anything like that, but any game i did try worked with no problems.

As for your other question i have not tryed to do anything else at the moment but boot rate off the games!!

So as soon as i try i will let you know.

[silentlight]

Originally posted by Aerick
No offense, but I look forward to results from others. From reading other posts from you, you appear to believe Matrix chips are the answer to everything. This is fine, but I'm wary of accepting something that sounds like sales propaganda like "Successful disc detection and boot anytime" in this case. I'd like actual numbers and if you say it "boots" every time, you're not doing what I asked as ejecting and closing from inside the browser doesn't cause the disc to boot. Also, I know that it's impossible for it to work 100% of the time, just given the nature of modchips and especially since it has so few wires on the mechacon. Chips fail sometimes, it's a simple fact. Some more than others though. ;)

foundmy: could you try booting various medias from AR/whatever as well?

True that, I have a DUO in a v5 NTSC PS2, I rewired/rerouted the wires many times to see if it improves my boot rate. After each time, I do 30 to 40 boots (10 at a time then start again from standby) and I've managed to improve my boot rate from 70% to 85% with the same backup disc. What's interesting to note is that I've never gotten 10 consecutive boots out of the 3 or 4 sets of 10 boots, the closest I've gotten is 9/10.

So far ongoing rewiring/rerouting for "improvements" (check here (http://ps2newz.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22030)) haven't resulted in a better boot rate so I'm thinking it's something else, like the laser or the media so I tried a TDK backup and I got the same boot rate. I guess that leaves the laser but I don't wanna mess with it...yet :D.

Or like you said, nothing's perfect.

[chuchaman]

So this means this chip is better than messia2 and dms3? or which one is still best

[silentlight]

Featurewise, the Infinity is definitely better but we don't know how stable or reliable it is yet.

[9HOMERSIMPSON9]

Still at the moment i would say the DMS3 is still the best mod out there.
The matrix infinity has only been released and we have not seen its flaws and faults.

Until we see *ALL* of them we cant compare the 2.

But its l@@king very good for the Matrix Team.

And if i was a betting man i would say we have a new king in the modchip world and its the MATRIX INFINITY.

[9HOMERSIMPSON9]

sorry homer, that first post was meant for millerwan and foundmy, not you. only the 2nd was meant for you.

No problem at all Aerick, but trust me i will have no problems telling the truth about this mod, but its looking very good at the moment.

[milerwan]

The Matrix Infinity looks as stable as the Matrix MXL2.

It's true that booting issues on v9/10 board are amazing compared to the ancient's ones.

My tests comes from PS2 V10 Pal.

I've "reseted" the console 10 times after same boot sequence with PlayStation2 logo : CD-R and DVD-R never failed...

It's life. :lol:

[9HOMERSIMPSON9]

Yes im very impressed so-far with the MATRIX INFINITY.

[Fat_Mike]

LOD should review one IMO.

[EnTiTy]

ahhhhhh its killed my la chip :lol: jk

working fine here up to press the boot rate from reset seems fine.

browser reset is consecutive to a certain extent had 2 rsods apart from that reauthentication has been fine.

booting from browser after reauthentication, incured the rsod not the actual detection of the ps2 disc in browser after hitting X to proceed to boot the game.

overall seems a pretty solid design and aerick i hope you make your reduced wire count doc public should make an intresting read :)

[Fat_Mike]

Can you boot PSX backup from the browser? Because the DMS3 can't.

[modzone]

SAIFUN
sa25f005
0405

[Chip&Chop]

Not exactly Aerick, KByte is "KB" while Kbit is "Kb".
At least I remember that far from my University years :p

Regards,
Chip&Chop.

[FrEEzEr]

Originally posted by milerwan
Show me picture of your install.

No the website doesn't work not my install :)

[milerwan]

I'm always searching how to boot PS2Reality from MC...

Anyone has got suggestion?

[jung_rob]

damn, did they just redo their website, or did i have a really old link!
haha, compare my link
http://www.infinitymod.com/general/reseller.htm

to their current one!

man, now i want a v10.

[dac2]

Reseller on right page:

http://infinitymod.com/cgi-bin/matrix/site.pl?page=reseller

[dac2]

Datasheet:

http://www.saifun.com/objects/SA25F005-Jan2004.pdf

It's 64 Kbytes (not 128Kb!).

512 / 8 = 64 Kbytes

More infos:
http://www.saifun.com/content.asp?id=96

DAC

[dac2]

Errata, on datasheet it says:

"The SA25F005 is a 1Mb (256K x 2)"...

The correct is 512Kb !

256 x 2 = 512

NOT 1Mb.

On "1Mb at a time"... it's 512Kb again.

DAC

[Fat_Mike]

Now all we have to do is wait and see if they actualy use that flash feature.

[9HOMERSIMPSON9]

Well fat_nike, its always there!!!

[Toma]

Is this compatible with V1-V2 consoles?

[dac2]

I dunno if this chip it's already compatible with Sony HDD or only after new firmware come out.

Someone tested this one with official HDD ?

Just for reference, dms3 uses 128Kbytes Flash (SST MPF+ 39VF010).

DAC

[dac2]

Originally posted by Toma
Is this compatible with V1-V2 consoles?

Yes. Diagrams will be available on this coming week. :)

Source: they told me. :)

[9HOMERSIMPSON9]

Is this compatible with V1-V2 consoles?

Well they have only given me the diagrams for versions 3 onwards.

And the website only has the diagrams for versions 3 onwards.

[dac2]

Diagrams will be something like this:
http://www.infinitymod.com/MLX2-USA-V1V2.zip

20 wires for v9 & v10.

19 wires for v1, v2 & v8.

18 wires for v3 to v7.

I dunno about v0, perhaps will be 19 wires again.

[FrEEzEr]

Grrr i can't contact their website, maybe my dns servers aren't updated.

Can someone please post their ip adres so i can try it that way. Tnx!

[Toma]

Sounds good. I might sell my Duo to get an Infinity.

[9HOMERSIMPSON9]

If your only looking for the mod to play back-ups then there is no need to swap it as the duo is a very solid and stable mod.

[Toma]

Yea, you're right. It's just that people at my house like to complain about pressing the reset button. :rolleyes:

[silentlight]

I'd switch my DUO out too for an Infinity, just for the fun of it.

[N£TM£ÇH]

Originally posted by Toma
Is this compatible with V1-V2 consoles?

Well matrix team said matrix mxl2 usa was only v3-10 compatible but wizeone and i tested it on v1-2 and it worked fine so i dont see why it wont work.

[9HOMERSIMPSON9]

Yes Netmech i seen the thanks that you got on there website.

[jung_rob]

so the matrix are the only ones that have a single chip for V1-V10 correct?

[cricrocro]

The SA25F005 is a 512kbits (64kBytes) with a working of max 25Mhz. It is a serial memory, so in the best case, to read one byte from it, is needed about 320msec. In this way the maximum frequency is about 3.1Mhz. The bios bus is working at more 12Mhz. How can it work? Probably it use the apa075 internal ram like a cache (very little cache 3.3KBytes).


Aerick:
#Could someone read the part #s off the "flash" chip on the
#PCB? It's the 8-legged chip in the lower-right. Matrix blurs it out
#in their pics for some reason and I wanna check something out.
may be inside it there is a part of dms firmware.

#There's alot of bullshit going around about reduced wiring (such
#as saying that it reduced stress on the laser and such) that
#needs clearing up.
You know very well how the mechacon is working, and what you are writing is FALSE!! Is false also the "reduced stress" , 8 wires or 1 wires is the same.

[w1ze0ne]

Originally posted by N£TM£ÇH
Well matrix team said matrix mxl2 usa was only v3-10 compatible but wizeone and i tested it on v1-2 and it worked fine so i dont see why it wont work.


From the Infinity team.....

It does work on V1-2 USA. Our problem right now is that the USA board we have is in very bad shape to make some decent pictures. So we are waiting for the pictures of a good looking V1-2 to make some decent diagrams.

If you would like to test it on your V1-2 USA it will be really appreciated. We are always happy to hear from our customers suggestions/advices to improve our products.

Also, if your V1-V2 board are in good shape and you feel to send us some pictures of it (zipped in .bmp format) that will be really appreciated :-).


Best Regards,
The Matrix Team
Luke.

[DIOYK-13]

Hi does anybody know How much this chip (matrix infinity) costs?

[9HOMERSIMPSON9]

Yes i can supply you one.

pm me if interested

and if you want too know the cost.

PM sent too you buddy.

[loy]

well wat i plan to do to test it is go to browser and put in different media psx dvdmovies dvd games cd game randomly to see if they reconise them correctly.

[dac2]

Originally posted by loy
well wat i plan to do to test it is go to browser and put in different media psx dvdmovies dvd games cd game randomly to see if they reconise them correctly.

It should works fine. I really don't see any difference from main screen, or from browser.

Cannot wait to get my infinity here to tested it. Foundmy send me asap the chip please!! :D

DAC

[milerwan]

It's done : The DREAM turns to NIGHTMARE with my V9 Pal... :arg:

Fitted with MXL2, my V9 works like a charm. :)

BUT, I've tried to replace it by INFINITY and the result is black screen when I switch on the console. :wow:

Trying another INFINITY from my stock, always the same result ! :mad:

So, I decides to keep the same wires of the new installation and refit the ancien MXL2... The PS2 starts with no problem and works as before. :confused:

Not installation problem it seems, but what's the matter ?!?
Is Anyone encountred the same problem on V9 ?

Is it possible that wire lenth cause such trouble? :crazy:


Thanks for your help.

[CN-Twat]

Originally posted by Fat_Mike
LOD should review one IMO.

I have one they sent me days ago to test but with all the ill will from the matrix team we at newz will not endorse the chip at all what so ever.

[EnTiTy]

Originally posted by LOD
I have one they sent me days ago to test but with all the ill will from the matrix team we at newz will not endorse the chip at all what so ever.
not being funny but how is this connected with ps2newz pfffffffft
:rolleyes:

im not a supporter of any chip but cant see where the problem is here or do you mean because gamefreax were selling clones or something ? this has me rather confused to what they have done to not deserve a review unless you know something we dont.

[9HOMERSIMPSON9]

LOD are you a mod on this forum???

Or are you just a member??

Just wondering!

[loy]

u haven't been here so long haven't u.... well he is a mod and co owner

[9HOMERSIMPSON9]

Its just i dont know ALL the mods yet!!!

[classact]

Originally posted by LOD
I have one they sent me days ago to test but with all the ill will from the matrix team we at newz will not endorse the chip at all what so ever.

WITH ALL DO RESPECT!!!

you should review the chip for the members of this forum. We the forum members have not done anything to ps2news and as a ps2 site you should be more professional as a site that puts out info in the ps2scene i find that a bit childesh that you do not suck up what problem you have to give the people that support your site a honest review. This my friends and ps2news members is why the ps2scene is shit because people can't work togather and sites fighting and bitching you don't see other scene sites turning down reviews on modchips because they want the best for their members and i think this forum should be understanding of that and give us a review because you want to make sure we don't get ripped or fucked you should be looking out for the people who support your site.

[CN-Twat]

Originally posted by 9HOMERSIMPSON9
LOD are you a mod on this forum???

Or are you just a member??

Just wondering!
Actually I am one of the administrators of this forum.

[CN-Twat]

You are getting reviews of the chip for all different sources your just not getting the endorsement of PS2newz to promote the chip. The hardcore PS2 sceners will know what I am talking about and thats all that needs to be said.

[N£TM£ÇH]

Dms finally has some competition

[classact]

Originally posted by LOD
You are getting reviews of the chip for all different sources your just not getting the endorsement of PS2newz to promote the chip. The hardcore PS2 sceners will know what I am talking about and thats all that needs to be said.

For the record i think you are wrong for doing this i thought the site was called ps2news because you post news about ps2 not with hold info thats fucking backwards i thought this is post to be the peoples forum .. like the man said above this post you don't care to post about dms3 and hell they havent been in no rush to come out with a new bios untill they knew the infenty was on its way . I couldent tell you how many people has spoke up about that shitty bios 1.8 I it just dam maybe that you don't want to review the chip because you know it out weighs the dms3 and it would make people not want to buy the dms3.

[N£TM£ÇH]

The Place were Freedom Lives.... this is where i cry

[pico996969]

it's LOD's choice whether or not he wants to review a chip...if i was getting badmouthed? by someone i certainly would not review their chip and give it a good review for them in my forums....

is this like the past debates of whether or not the clone chips should be reviewed?

or is this a whole new debate....

i personally say LOD should be able to choose not to review a chip if he doesn't want to, and should not hear any complaints about him not reviewing it.

if someone else does a review and it gets locked and closed and censored, that may be another story, and should have a reasonable explanation

[N£TM£ÇH]

My review will come soon then

[classact]

Originally posted by Aerick
You guys are unbelievable. Who the fuck do you think you are making any demands from Newz? They have reasons for not doing it, accept it. These people spent their time and money to host and run this site, THEY decide what they do, not you or anyone else. LOD is a very cool guy, he's always been a voice of reason and I have yet to see him do something out of personal bias. If you want a review of the chip, wait for someone else to do it. It's not like being a member of the Newz staff makes you the scene's bitch. :P

yeh well who wants to be apart of a forum that only gives you half the story. Not trying to bust any ones balls

[shalashaska]

well,bottom line.
is infinity very good or not?

[Chip&Chop]

Originally posted by LOD
You are getting reviews of the chip for all different sources your just not getting the endorsement of PS2newz to promote the chip. The hardcore PS2 sceners will know what I am talking about and thats all that needs to be said.

Does this have to do with what happened between Matrix Team and Gamefreax?

I am not endorsing any one of the two sides, but wilth all due respect Gamefreax is not anymore on my list of respected sites after they tried to SCAM people by selling fake products as original and lying to customers.
And same think goes for Modchip.ca after what happened with the OzXodus fake chip and Xenium team.

Anyhow, i will receive my stock of Infinity today and will review it also for the interested ones.

Regards,
Chip&Chop.

[9HOMERSIMPSON9]

This is the bottom line everyone.

And you dont have too like what im about to say but hell
you will have too accept it!

THE NEW MATRIX INFINITY IS THE NEW MODCHIP KING!!!
ITS NOW BETTER AND MORE STABLE THAN THE DMS3!!!

I threw 2 discs at it 10 times each and 1 booted the full 10 times
and they other booted 9 times, but the time the game DID NOT
boot was the first time i put it into the machine straight after the
first game, but booted once i pressed reset once!!!

The games i used was -

First, GRAND THEFT AUTO: VICE CITY.

Second: 007: EVERYTHING OR NOTHING.

THX

[classact]

your right thats why they want review the fucking thing they know dms3 is a shitty chip. To be honest they havent been no news on the scene about the infentiy in a long time. Last week they closed my topic here http://www.ps2newz.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22053 when i posted about the chip being shipped to dealers they closed it with this remark and i qoute" Do we really need to have multple threads about this crap? i did not start no multple threads i made one about that topic do a search if any one doesent trust me i have made other threads about the infinty but on a different subject never the same thread over and over again it was something different it was important it wasent no bullshit. If it was something about dms3 comeing out with a 1.9 bios after almost half a year of waiting for one then i do not think their would have been a problem. ALSO why is crap how is it crap this is a ps2news forum correct its about a ps2 modchip being shipped out so how is it crap its something worth knowing :crazy: also another thing that gets me is this infenty chip is the 1st of its kind to auto boot games with out the need to switch boot types by fucking with the eject and power button it plays just like orignals AND that is not big news!!!!!! ITS NOT WORTH TESTING!!! is a break through in the ps2 scene and you do not want to test it !!!!!!!! I here all the time from this forum about OWNZ i never been a member of the forum never even went to their website before but i here bitching about how stupied and how dumb the owner is and from what i read he is a asshole and how the do stupied shit. What would you call this move its sure not mature by any means ..

[Chip&Chop]

Ok, I belive everyone should come down a little bit now.

We all wait the results of the tests of everyone than we will know.

Chip&Chop.

[classact]

:crazy:

[EnTiTy]

i think i know what they are on about maybe the link because they made the ******* pcb.

i still cant see a problem but it is their choice i just dont like the fact that they say yeah send a sample and dont review it, thats my only problem unless the sample was paid for.
EnTiTy

[w1ze0ne]

For those that are curious. YOu can use the instalation diagrams from

http://www.foundmy.com/

For VER1 And Ver2.

Use the M2 PRO v1.30 Diagrams

YOu do dont need the G or H wire as these are exclusive to the Ver 9 and 10 system.
THe C,D,E,F wire are not needed( there not on the Chip)

Also, There are alternate points so you do not need to solder any wires on the bottom side.
Do the Video fix if you find you may have a use for it.

[EnTiTy]

Here we go bring that shit up and spit your dummy again.

personal info lol if it was personal it would have been your addy name and phone number it was a damn website url :mad: i GAVE no such direct personal info stop whining as if it was a death threat :rolleyes:

if they have done that tho fair do's i dont blame you for not reviewing the mod newz just goes downhill and more corrupt in my opinion all about the $ for certain individuals.

how lame to accept a sample tho and not review it
EnTiTy

[EnTiTy]

whoa im shocked you must be going soft j/k
a reasonable reply :)

i understand your stance with the matrix team if that indeed has been done.

i missed that episode somewhere along the way.

[9HOMERSIMPSON9]

If you dont want too support them, then why dont you send
the mod back???

[dac2]

Honestly, if this modchip is really good, I will drop dms3.

Did you see the upgrade and support rate from dms?

Firmware v1.8 is from 11/16/2003 !!

It's already 5 months ago!

Now, they are just saying will release "2.0" insted "1.9", around 04/30 (I hope), but again sounds just like an excuse for delayed so much to fix the bugs on v1.8. After all, v1.9 never come out, and never will. :alien:

Anyway, I'll do a review when I get the chip.

[Chip&Chop]

Ok guys, it took from me most of the evening, but here it is:


Modchip Model: Matrix Infinity
Test Console : SCPH-50004 PAL V9 with MXL2 fitted inside and NTSC colour fix. Removed the MXL2 and installed Infinity.


Procedure Used During Testing:
All games are tested for boot 3 consecutive times from Menu.
PS2 is than booted to Browser without disk inside.
Game is checked for re-authentication from browser for 5 times.
Games tested in the order in which they are listed.


Material used for testing:

PS2 Games:
Original Games : Splinter Cell (PAL) - Driving Emotion Type-S (JAP) - Tiger Woods PGA Tour (USA) - FIFA 2002 (PAL)

Game on CD-R : ISS - Ridge Racer 5
Game on Dvd-r : Splinter Cell (PAL) - FIFA 2002 (PAL) - Baldurs Gate "Dark Alliance II" (PAL)

HK Dvd Silver : Spiderman
Dvd-9 HK silver: Xenosaga


PSX Games:
Original : Wild Ambition (JAP)
Back-Up : Wild Ambition (JAP)


DVD Movies:
Region 2 : Conan "The future Boy" (PAL) - Armageddon (PAL)
Region 3 : Godzilla 2000 Millenium (NTSC)



Results of testing:

PS2:
Boot at Menu : All tested and working all the times.

Boot at Browser:
Splinter Cell (Original) 5/5
Splinter Cell (Back-Up) 5/5
D.E. Type-S (JAP) (Original) 5/5
T.W. PGA T. (USA) (Original) 5/5
FIFA 2002 (Original) 5/5
FIFA 2002 (Back-Up) 5/5
Baldurs Gate (Back-Up) 5/5
ISS (Back-Up) 5/5
Ridge Racer 5 (Back-Up) 5/5
Spiderman (HK Silver) 5/5
Xenosaga (DVD9) 5/5



PSX autoboot:

PSX Center Screen : Working
Boot at Menu : All tested and working all the times.

Boot at Browser :
Wild Ambition (Original) 5/5
Wild Ambition (Back-Up) 5/5



DVD autoboot:

DVD Green Fix : Working
DVD Region Free : Working
Boot at Browser :
Conan 5/5
Armageddon 5/5
Godzilla 5/5


Personally I belive that the Infinity is really setting a new standard.



Notes:
At the end I also tried several other games on different media tested with normal boot procedure (insert game and press reset), like a normal user would use it.
It always booted everything.

Not Tested:
Macrovision (do not have time to test sorry)
Datel memory card support (Do not have Datel Memory Card)

I do own all the original (PS2 and PS1 and DVD movies) of the back-up games/dvd I used during the test. These Back Up are for personal use only.


Regards,
Chip&Chop.

[9HOMERSIMPSON9]

I done some testing off my own last night and tested 9 games on a MATRIX INFINITY modded version 7 PS2.

Heres my results (booted each 3 times from the menu)

GTA: VICE CITY - 3 of 3
FIFA FOOTBALL 2004 - 3 of 3
007 E OR N - 3 of 3
007 NIGHTFIRE - 3 of 3
MORTAL KOMBAT DA - 3 of 3
FINAL FANTASY 12 - 3 of 3
FREEDOM FIGHTERS - 3 of 3
MOH: RISING SUN - 3 of 3
TRUE CRIME - 3 of 3

and i did test the Macrovision Off and it worked no problem.
I tested it with a Original Region 2 DVD HAPPY GILMORE.

[silentlight]

i personally say LOD should be able to choose not to review a chip if he doesn't want to, and should not hear any complaints about him not reviewing it.

if someone else does a review and it gets locked and closed and censored, that may be another story, and should have a reasonable explanation

I totally agree with pico on this. Afterall, it's not like ps2newz is getting paid to do anything unless I'm wrong.

[i]Last week they closed my topic here http://www.ps2newz.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22053 when i posted about the chip being shipped to dealers they closed it with this remark and i qoute" Do we really need to have multple threads about this crap? i did not start no multple threads i made one about that topic do a search if any one doesent trust me i have made other threads about the infinty but on a different subject never the same thread over and over again it was something different it was important it wasent no bullshit. If it was something about dms3 comeing out with a 1.9 bios after almost half a year of waiting for one then i do not think their would have been a problem. ALSO why is crap how is it crap this is a ps2news forum correct its about a ps2 modchip being shipped out so how is it crap its something worth knowing :crazy: also another thing that gets me is this infenty chip is the 1st of its kind to auto boot games with out the need to switch boot types by fucking with the eject and power button it plays just like orignals AND that is not big news!!!!!! ITS NOT WORTH TESTING!!! is a break through in the ps2 scene and you do not want to test it !!!!!!!! I here all the time from this forum about OWNZ i never been a member of the forum never even went to their website before but i here bitching about how stupied and how dumb the owner is and from what i read he is a asshole and how the do stupied shit. What would you call this move its sure not mature by any means .. [/B]

This is another story though, if it is, indeed, true, I don't think it is right to withold information from the public, but IMO ps2newz still reserves the right not to review a chip if they so wish as long as they don't keep others from doing it and revealing the results here at ps2newz as well. I suppose people could argue that since this is my x, I'll do as I please with whatever x contains so what are you gonna do but if ps2newz wants to keep their value as a PS2 News forum then they'll do well not to censore any objective opinions about any modchip.

I hope I don't get flamed for saying all that :) .

[MrMatrix]

Originally posted by Guichi
its because they are an offshot of a group that once sent out one of our admins personal info to a certain lamer for no apparent reason.

I can honestly say that I have no idea of what you are talking about. I sent you a few PMs some time ago to try to understand exactly what you think our team has done in the past, but I never received a reply from you.

If you want to hear our side of the story you can PM me or send me an email to any address on infinitymod.com and I'll be happy to discuss and clarify any unresolved issues.

Regards.

[massive007]

has anyone tryed the chip with $ony hard drive?

[milerwan]

Originally posted by milerwan
It's done : The DREAM turns to NIGHTMARE with my V9 Pal... :arg:

Fitted with MXL2, my V9 works like a charm. :)

BUT, I've tried to replace it by INFINITY and the result is black screen when I switch on the console. :wow:

Trying another INFINITY from my stock, always the same result ! :mad:

So, I decides to keep the same wires of the new installation and refit the ancien MXL2... The PS2 starts with no problem and works as before. :confused:

Not installation problem it seems, but what's the matter ?!?
Is Anyone encountred the same problem on V9 ?

Is it possible that wire lenth cause such trouble? :crazy:


Thanks for your help.
I've refitted the Infinity on my V9 and now all works perfect. :p

It seems lenght of wires may cause trouble on activation of the chip.

In my case, problem of "black screen" doesn't came from 3.3v and ground wires lenght or section (I've tried all possibilities).
I suspect lenght of "reset" wire to be faulty.

I propose pictures of my installs for indication...

This is the Black screen install on V9.

[milerwan]

This is the "successfuly" install on V9.

[TeknoZ]

Second install looks great (and that's also the position where I like to place the chip in my installations).
The first one had a very long GND wire which probably was causing the problem. From my experience a short thick ground wire solves most installation problems.

[MLS100]

How easy would it be to swap an already installed messiah2 for this chip in a v7? Would I have to solder any new wires? If not, I will gladly buy this chip.

/MLS

[keyscoob]

For reference to others, I installed Infinity (PAL v9) as shown below and all features are working as they should.

http://www.rampantapathy.co.uk/images/chipsnmods/installs/infinity_v9_top.jpg

...

[w1ze0ne]

Originally posted by MLS100
How easy would it be to swap an already installed messiah2 for this chip in a v7? Would I have to solder any new wires? If not, I will gladly buy this chip.

/MLS

You will have to remove wires. Not add any

[TeknoZ]

Originally posted by MLS100
How easy would it be to swap an already installed messiah2 for this chip in a v7? Would I have to solder any new wires? If not, I will gladly buy this chip.

You will probably only need to change the clock wire I think (matrix chips use the Y point) and leave the unused wires unconnected or better yet, remove them.

[milerwan]

Originally posted by keyscoob
For reference to others, I installed Infinity (PAL v9) as shown below and all features are working as they should.

http://www.rampantapathy.co.uk/images/chipsnmods/installs/infinity_v9_top.jpg

...
Effectively, wire lenght of your install are longer than mine and problem seems to be out there... :rolleyes:

Thanks for this testimony.

[jamminj606]

I have v7 with a messiah2 also. Should we get one of these bad boys or the DMS3? I want to upgrade my mod mainly for the HDD.

[loy]

i think talking about reduce wire size?

[silentlight]

I think Aerick meant reduced wire count, not reduced wire size. I'd also like to know which part he thinks is wrong.

[loy]

woops my and my typing not wat i'm thinking wire count on cd dvd contrller

[chuchaman]

so which is best DMS3 or MATRIX INFINITY, which one will be definitely the best choice then...

[shalashaska]

currently,seems infinity is ruling the market in best chip.IMHO infinity is infinately better than dms3

[MLS100]

Originally posted by TeknoZ
You will probably only need to change the clock wire I think (matrix chips use the Y point) and leave the unused wires unconnected or better yet, remove them.

Thank yew, can anyone confirm this?

/MLS

[nonen666]

The position of the chip that most people choose is wrong. You mustn't place it where team messiah shows in their diagrams because it's very far from the bios data points and generally from all the points to connect. It's simple, shorter wire is better. I don't have a picture with my installation but you can see the pic below and with some changes. First of all the bios wires CAN cross each other and it is better to cross each other! The cross talking happens when the wires go parallel with extremely small distance between them. The only thing to take care is all the data wires must have about the same length even if the closer ones could be shorter and that is for perfect timing in the signals. The ground wire should be as small as it gets. And the general routing of all the wires needn't to be parallel with 90 degrees angles, always to keep everything short. The R and W wires must go in some distance like the pic. All the above I was told by my brother who is an experienced Mentor designer (=CAD program).
Hope it helps! :)

[nonen666]

Forgot the pic!

[chuchaman]

Well lots are saying that this matrix infinity is better than dms3 right now, how about bulking price?

[TeknoZ]

@nonen666 :

That's exactly where I place the MXL2 in my installs (I just route the M-P wires the other way around) and I have never had an install problem so far. The good think with the Infinity is that if you place it in that position you can solder the ground wire with a very short wire on the ground below.

[silentlight]

Originally posted by nonen666
The position of the chip that most people choose is wrong. You mustn't place it where team messiah shows in their diagrams because it's very far from the bios data points and generally from all the points to connect. It's simple, shorter wire is better. I don't have a picture with my installation but you can see the pic below and with some changes. First of all the bios wires CAN cross each other and it is better to cross each other! The cross talking happens when the wires go parallel with extremely small distance between them. The only thing to take care is all the data wires must have about the same length even if the closer ones could be shorter and that is for perfect timing in the signals. The ground wire should be as small as it gets. And the general routing of all the wires needn't to be parallel with 90 degrees angles, always to keep everything short. The R and W wires must go in some distance like the pic. All the above I was told by my brother who is an experienced Mentor designer (=CAD program).
Hope it helps! :)

This is interesing. But the part "the general routing of all the wires needn't to be parallel with 90 degrees angles, always to keep everything short", do you mean that you should round the corners as in a more direct route between points A and B instead of an L shaped routing to make it look neater, right?

Also, I don't understand "R and W wires must go in some distance like the pic", can you further explain this? Thanks.

[nonen666]

R and W wires are "Read Enable" and "Write Enable" of the bios chip. When the system wants to read it sends a 5V to R and the same thing with the write function. The problem is that if they are very close and to trigger the R that may also trigger the W and when they are both logic high then the chip does nothing. I'm not sure if this is 100% right as I say what I remember.
And for the parallel routing, yes I meant the corners of the wires. It's needless and it increases the length of the wires, but it's not crusial. The position of chip is very crusial.

[loy]

proper grounding is really only nesscessary

[silentlight]

Originally posted by nonen666
R and W wires are "Read Enable" and "Write Enable" of the bios chip. When the system wants to read it sends a 5V to R and the same thing with the write function. The problem is that if they are very close and to trigger the R that may also trigger the W and when they are both logic high then the chip does nothing. I'm not sure if this is 100% right as I say what I remember.
And for the parallel routing, yes I meant the corners of the wires. It's needless and it increases the length of the wires, but it's not crusial. The position of chip is very crusial.

"The problem is that if they are very close and to trigger the R that may also trigger the W", what causes this exactly? Do you mean that if the wires W and R are parallel and close together, cross talking will trigger both signals at the same time, so they should be kept some distance apart, am I understanding this correctly?

[Chip&Chop]

I agree with Loy, proper grounding and an "ordered" install is what is really necessary to have a smooth modchip Installation.

Most of the time that people bring me their failed installations is just necessary to order the wires and make proper GND and 3,3V and all the problem disappear ;)

I will add to these points also the use of good quality wire.
Most modder under estimate the need of using good quality wires.

Regards,
Chip&Chop.

Chip&Chop.

[silentlight]

How do you know if a wire is of good quality?

[Chip&Chop]

I normally use silver plated copper wire (coated with Tefzel or Kynar) and only from company with a quality certificate.
By this way you can be sure of the good quality of the materials and also that the plastic insulation is uniform on the wire.

There are a lot of good companies out there that sell excellent wire and offer full guaranteed specifications for their products.

But most important of all I avoid the chineese brands that cost 2 Euro for one 100 mt spool :)

Regards,
Chip&Chop.

[silentlight]

Actually, the 30AWG wires that I use have plastic insulation that melt away whilst soldering points, this is really annoying as it exposes more wire than necessary and I'm not talking about the enamel coated wires either. I've bought some Messiah 2 chips from gocybershop.ca before which come with pretinned wires and those don't seem to suffer the same problem.

[Unfinity]

I find that the plastic only pulls back so far, so if you premelt it then trim the exposed wire to the length you need, and don't use too much heat when attaching the wire, it usually doesn't pull back much more.

[silentlight]

Yeah, but annoying nonetheless.

[Spike9711137]

is it just me, or are the links to the website not working? Can someone post a valid link? :cry:

[dac2]

whois whois.ripe.net www.infinitymod.com:

% This is the RIPE Whois server.
% The objects are in RPSL format.
%
% Rights restricted by copyright.
% See http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/pub-services/db/copyright.html

%ERROR:101: no entries found
%
% No entries found in the selected source(s).

Nuked DNS servers, or site was take down for Sony. :wow:

[dac2]

Site is back. It was just DNS nuked. ;)

Next time, copy all the diagrams and instructions to your HDD, like me. ;)

[Spike9711137]

anyone know where i can find the diagrams for v1?

[w1ze0ne]

use the ones for the MLX2,
Same one,
Wire H is not used.

[w1ze0ne]

the duo diagram will work as well

Attach Y wire here...

[dac2]

Hmm, this is pretty strange. Infinity team told me Y point is just around 1MHz, and this is why you don't need to use pair twisted with GND on this point (it's necessary for 30MHz and above frequencies).

On this diagram (above) the clock is 54.5MHz, now I wonder. :confused:

[loy]

the y is sensitive still

[dac2]

I know that, but with low rate clock you don't need to worry with twisted pair at all. It must be around 3cm, or less (if possible).

dac

[emu_kidid]

Does anyone know if the Matrix Infinity will kill the LA chip on a 50002 PAL console?

[Chip&Chop]

Originally posted by emu_kidid
Does anyone know if the Matrix Infinity will kill the LA chip on a 50002 PAL console?

Amazing... three monthes we are discussing about LA problem and still people are making these questions.... :rolleyes:

Go here and read all the pages:
http://www.ps2newz.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=20149&perpage=15&pagenumber=1

You might also want to check a very advanced feature of ps2newz, the SEARCH PAGE:
http://www.ps2newz.net/forums/search.php?
:)


Chip&Chop.

[emu_kidid]

It's 25 Pages, care to sum it up for me? :P

[Chip&Chop]

Originally posted by emu_kidid
It's 25 Pages, care to sum it up for me? :P
LOL ok,

I will make it easy:

1) LA problem is internal PS2 problem.
2) Modded and Un-Modded PS2 blow up alike becouse of voltage spikes due to the use of CD/DVD media.
3) The last (and probably the definitive) solution to protect the LA chip is to do the "Romeo Mod".
Read about it starting from here:
http://www.ps2newz.net/forums/showthread.php?postid=144072#post144072

4) Add to the "Romeo Mod" also a clean installation using good quality wires/solder/tools, and you should not have any big problem with LA.


Nevertheless I REALLY suggest you to go trought all the 25 pages if you want to get a deep understanding of the LA problem and all the work that the people made to solve it ;).

Chip&Chop.

[Spike9711137]

Originally posted by dac2
I know that, but with low rate clock you don't need to worry with twisted pair at all. It must be around 3cm, or less (if possible).

dac

eh, could you explain what you said about the Y wire point? You said the mhz is different or something, does that mean its a different point than that alternate y picture?

[dac2]

At last! Memory manager is available on:

http://www.infinitymod.com/cgi-bin/matrix/site.pl?page=infinity_software

Final version will be on 04/27.

[foundmy]

Yes, they have emailed stating that an upgrade will fix the HDD Support.

We received out stock, and we had someone do a install for us. What they found out that they needed to use a 24 GAUGE (AWG) wire for both GND and the CLK (Y point) and everything else was 30 AWG, we even tried 3.3v at 30AWG but it didn't make a difference for the testing. And yes, they did some testing of different media like PS2 CD, PS1 CD, CD AUDIO, DVD Movies and PS2 DVD and PS2 DVD9 games, and they all were properly identified and labled in the browser as well as booting properly.

Some might not like the guys behind this matrix infinity or other matrix products, but the one thing that i must be said atleast they did something original and pushed the limits that were once written in stone regarding not being able to do proper disc identifying without switching modes.

[CN-Twat]

Here is a Pic on the mod installed in a NTSC v7. Heavy duty PWR & GND like always were used. (W) & (R) were kept seperated. Samples were provided to PS2NEWZ with the courtesy of Foundmy (http://www.foundmy.com) & Divineo (http://www.divineo.com) both resellers of the chip.

[loy]

can't wait to see how this compares with my dms3 to see if it has a problem that the dms3 has. I might just switch

[dac2]

To LOD

No reviews ?

[Spike9711137]

Yay, the matrix team just added a v1/v2 diagram for us ancient breed of PS2s. :D

[Spike9711137]

im wondering, how do you know a place is proper for grounding the chip? Are there certain things you have to consider?

[Chip&Chop]

Well, it's pretty easy, get a multimeter and you will find a lot of places on a PS2 motherboard that are Gnd.
As a matter a pretty big chunk of the surface of the PS2 motherboard is Gnd.

Just look for a suitable big dot near the chip where to place the wire and stick it in :)

Chip&Chop.

[loy]

also has the same problem with dms3. i guess it's a memory card thing. mega memory cards not working with resident evil outbreak

[DizzyRaider]

mega memory cards are now working with dms3 with the release of the 2.2 flash

[loy]

i haven't tried 2.2 yet

[Spike9711137]

Thx chip, didnt know yopu could solder the GND to any part of green on the board. Does the chip need to be flat on the board, or can it be on top of things, to like, put it closer to the points (shorter wires).

[Chip&Chop]

Wait, not in ANY part of green of the board !!! :)

You need to get a multimeter and search for a suitable alternate GND point.

It is normally very easy to recognize a GND poit if you have some experience. If you have doubt don't use them and stick to the official points.

Chip&Chop.

[milerwan]

Originally posted by Spike9711137
Thx chip, didnt know yopu could solder the GND to any part of green on the board. Does the chip need to be flat on the board, or can it be on top of things, to like, put it closer to the points (shorter wires).
what's your mother board version?

[Spike9711137]

version 1. :cry: