New Homebrew Mod Dev Thread

[KaiphaN]

Now that Guichi has closed the magic2 thread i think its time we begin to look into the codes posted above and as SniperKilla said, we should begin to discover our own things and possibly find a way to make a homebrew magic2 mod.

[EnTiTy]

if its ok with Guichi i will help out but only with the magic guys consent they know not many will do this homebrew the only threat they have is the hongkong guys but until then im doing zip.
EnTiTy

[necrolop]

What would be better is to try to Eeeprom it. I couldnt do it, but I know one of ya can;)

[ODD]

is it possible to burn a no swap modchip hex on a eprom?
hmmm if this is possible where to get the diagramm?

[necrolop]

Sweet, and where do we buy the components? And I cant fidn a price there. Can it be done to program actels aswell?

[necrolop]

Sorry if those are stupid questions but I mean I see no "Buy" button on that site.

[Rattle]

The xilinx part could much likely be replaced with a eprom or flash of correct size, but it would make it a 40-50 wire install.

One thing that I think is possible is to solder a flash to the underside of the motherboard. At least on V5 ps2 there is space for a 44-pin flash, the by pulling CE high on original flash we might be on our way. That would make a very clean install.

Then to make it work as no-swap you could connect the scenix or an origa/nova.

This is just a theory of mine, but it should work. I don't have the money, time or equipment to try this :(

/Rattle

[Rattle]

Programmer for the xilinx can be built easily, check http://warmcat.com/milksop/

I don't know about the scenix but maybe an old 16c84 programmer will do?

/Rattle

[MrSporty]

You could always try Fluffy2

http://www.semis.demon.co.uk/Sx/SXmain.htm

Seems like a quite comprehensive SX programmer.

[necrolop]

Im new to this stuff, So I need to make the Jtag cable then what else?

[MrSporty]

Rattles post above is correct but in theory you'd prolly find it to be both too time consuming for the wiring and too costly.

The PS2 Bios would need to be completely replaced and seeing as its a 32 MegaBIT part (4 Megabytes) , flash parts of this size dont come cheap.

Youll also probably find that the 2 chips on the Magic2 work in tandem , with the SX controlling the bios patching routines of the xilinx depending on the jumper pad configuration. This would obviously have to be taken into account to produce patches for the different regions. Modification of the SX hex is needed but thankfully isnt too hard.

As it stands , magic2 is the easiest solution so far to hombrew .. unless someone releases hex that can reliably patch the bios on the fly using a scenix micro running at 50mhz .. and then combines it with the current magic 2 scenix code ..

..

hang on .. thats a magic3 aint it ... lolol :)

[maomo34]

Why are you thinking in replace the xilinx for a eprom? In my opinion it cuold need more effort that use the already released files.

[ODD]

is it possible to bauild a programmer?
is there a how to in the internet?
its tooo expensive to buy one!

thx!

[maomo34]

Originally posted by ODD
is it possible to bauild a programmer?
is there a how to in the internet?
its tooo expensive to buy one!

thx!

All that info, has been alredy posted in others threads check them before to ask.

[Gradius]

The real, cheap, and easy alternative is rip off Magic3 code. Why? It's damn easy to produce this board, you'll just need:

- 1 IC (Ubicom) SX28AC
- 1 resonator (50MHz)
- 2 capacitors
- 1 PCB (if you want)
- a programmer (for SX28AC)

That's all, the costs is less than US$ 10. The programmer is around US$ 40 or less.

Gradius

PS: The best part this modchip is universal (except for Jap consoles, but hey, is just another code).

[maomo34]

I agree whit you Gradius the best solution is a One chip solution, like magic3 or others clones (Bluechip, XO-2), but we don't have the code of them, so at this time the Magic2 Homebrew is the best option.

[necrolop]

Hows the work on ripping the M3 code going n e ways?

[Robot]

I will be getting my programmer and some Xilinx and Sx28 chips this week , ones i have it i will be sorting out how to install the 2 chips homebrew style without any pcb. From looking at the magic 2 pcb we can see that the 2 devices do infact connect to each other thus reading off each other (not just ground)

more news to follow later on in the week.....

[ODD]

ok sorry!

but there are so many different eprom programmer!
damn and im not familiar with this shit..!
Please help me! give ma an url to the right topic or a pdf
with the manual with how to build the programmer!
it would be so nice, thanks!

[2 Tru CReW]

I dont know lol anything about this but - vero board instead ??? :lol:

[cipcipstore]

Have you the diagram of the pins for installation ?

[SniperKilla]

if someone could get me magic 2 pinouts and clock speed and all that good technical info i have someone thatas going to draw out some pcb layouts.

[ODD]

Originally posted by Gradius
The real, cheap, and easy alternative is rip off Magic3 code. Why? It's damn easy to produce this board, you'll just need:

- 1 IC (Ubicom) SX28AC
- 1 resonator (50MHz)
- 2 capacitors
- 1 PCB (if you want)
- a programmer (for SX28AC)

That's all, the costs is less than US$ 10. The programmer is around US$ 40 or less.

Gradius

PS: The best part this modchip is universal (except for Jap consoles, but hey, is just another code).

yeah these are the parts for the chips! u have a image or a pdf!
how to build them together?

[ODD]

uhf this is the magic 3!
hmm it wasnt released right?

[psxelec]

Originally posted by Gradius
The real, cheap, and easy alternative is rip off Magic3 code. Why? It's damn easy to produce this board, you'll just need:

- 1 IC (Ubicom) SX28AC
- 1 resonator (50MHz)
- 2 capacitors
- 1 PCB (if you want)
- a programmer (for SX28AC)

That's all, the costs is less than US$ 10. The programmer is around US$ 40 or less.

Gradius

PS: The best part this modchip is universal (except for Jap consoles, but hey, is just another code).
hi;
if any one have the chip SX28AC try this hexcode for PS2 V7 magic3....please we need more info about PCB and value for the 2 capacitors used on magic3 .

thank's

[necrolop]

So wait, Magic 3 not the Magic 2? Ahhh! Yeah! So what all do I need. Im sorry but Ive never done this before:confused: I mean I know I need teh Programmer the chips, the 2 caps, and all the kit and kaboodle, hrmmmm.

[MrSporty]

No No No No and NO !

The code posted by ODD is NOT the magic3 hex .. its just the same hex that sniperkilla released for the magic2v7.

Please try and read the posts CAREFULLY before confusing people all the further.

My reply earlier was to state that IF you could take the magic2 scenix code .. AND combine it with routines that could patch the bios the same as the xilinx device does on a magic2 .. THEN you would have an equivalent code to the magic3.

MrS

[necrolop]

I know ts just the M2, but I was jsut confused cuz that guy just said Magic 3.

[ODD]

The code posted by ODD is NOT the magic3 hex .. its just the same hex that sniperkilla released for the magic2v7.


I´ve posted a code?
lol!

[MadMax]

I think some nice guy can take the info stored in the eeprom an store it in the sx28ac as the magic 2 uses the same chip of magic3...
I'm not able to do this but is the step done by the magic group...

[MrSporty]

bollux .. my bad ODD .. twas a copy of your post by psxelec.

What MadMax says above is the key to making the no-swap mods truly within the reach of most homebrewers. A way needs to be found to incorporate the bios patch into the scenix.

[Rattle]

A good start for making all the functions fit in the scenix would be a complete working disasm of the magic2 scenix. Then a dump of original bios and magic2 "bios", a little comparing and then we have about 140 differences left.

The rest is not that hard :) But as always, it takes alot of time :/

/Rattle

[murcielago]

how about actually ripping the magic3 code is there a way to do it?
can it be done? or is just bla bla from some others guys

[MacDennis]

Look here for complete disassembly:

http://ps2newz.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=12832#post12832

Grtz,
Dennis

[midome]

does anyone have the schematic yet. and if you do can you post it.

[lacyg]

all in the file ...

[EnTiTy]

jesus lacy g nice work we will have a magic 3 yet.
EnTiTy

[EnTiTy]

nice one just like the good ol days cheers rex if stability is as good as you say were on to a winner it takes alot in my book to be on par with messiah.
EnTiTy

[Jan Lee]

Originally posted by Rex
Magic 3 code is successfully recovered and is on sale.

Kewl, who's selling it, you?

[EnTiTy]

here's my bit towards the home brew the full pin out of the magic 3 on a dip package.
EnTiTy

[EnTiTy]

i dont think rex is selling it i hope he aint anyway it will turn up in time cant wait.
EnTiTy

[ODD]

hmm i have seen ur homebrew magic3 picture!
hmmm u know where i can get the code?
i wanna make a no swap modchip because here in germany the chips are soo expensive!
and rare.
u have a tutorial on how to make a magic 2 or magic 3 *better*
homebrew ?
THANKS FOR UR ANSWERE =D

[murcielago]

great news! i wonder when is going to out?

[EnTiTy]

until the ps3 it just goes round and round and round im no 'l337' scener but the release is fairly imminent in my opinion. This is also going to destroy the mod Industry/Business as we know it it aint going to destroy anything its already lined a lot of pockets look at the xbox mods hombrews available and easy to do via lpc
and people still are buying mods it will just even things out a little this also happend on the ps1 money was made and then the little guys got a chance it always happens in the end.
EnTiTy

[Robot]

some interesting times ahead :) cant wait for a new console myself , im sick of seeing the inside of a ps2 ;]

[EnTiTy]

he he we have the gamecube to go yet.
EnTiTY

[Consolero]

hi EnTiTy it would send me happy to make if you me the code of the magic3 wuerdes I could few tries thereby to employ
regards
consolero

[Robot]

say what??

[EnTiTy]

i have not got a clue i have not got the code ive just made some diagrams out of the information already available.
EnTiTy

[Jan Lee]

Originally posted by Rex
No I am not selling it, but have been testing it, and it is good stuff.
Money was paid for the code extraction, and theres a small rounds of 'repayments' going on for people to recover the costs, but shortly it WILL be released.

There are 3 people that I personally know who have this code, and they are prominent in the scene, and are making use of it with projects right now.

Its possible to chip your PS2 to Messiah / Messiah 2 level for <$5 with this code, once its released the scene will go bananas !

Cool Bro, but I hope that the development progress (+\-), hopefully we can get a bad ass chip in the future before the PS3 comes around to say, HI YOU DOING!!! Freaking money issues (between us)...

[Consolero]

Hi@all
Can someone plz send me the source/hex code for theMagic3 Chip I want to test it with my PS2
thx&greetz
consolero

[betablockers]

Originally posted by MrSporty
Youll also probably find that the 2 chips on the Magic2 work in tandem , with the SX controlling the bios patching routines of the xilinx depending on the jumper pad configuration. This would obviously have to be taken into account to produce patches for the different regions. Modification of the SX hex is needed but thankfully isnt too hard.

As it stands , magic2 is the easiest solution so far to hombrew .. unless someone releases hex that can reliably patch the bios on the fly using a scenix micro running at 50mhz .. and then combines it with the current magic 2 scenix code ..

..

hang on .. thats a magic3 aint it ... lolol :)

Haven't paid much attention to the PS2 scene as there isn?t that much public info.

What is the Xilinx part doing?

Waiting for a key hardware event, then counting the OE signal before overwriting the BUS?

Or is the EPROM data copied to a cache RAM on boot-up?

[Robot]

Whats the value ofthe 2 resistors and the 1 cap on the magic2 board??

[betablockers]

I will take a guess at 1k for the resistors and 0.1uF for the cap.


Is/will the magic3 still be running at 50mhz or has it been increased to 100mhz for a 10ns instruction cycle.

[midome]

if the cap is on the s line im guesiing its .1uf

[Gradius]

Originally posted by Robot
Whats the value ofthe 2 resistors and the 1 cap on the magic2 board??

There're just 3 resistors only, the values are:

- 2 x 33K ohms
- 1 x 153K ohms on v3 (I got 157K ohms on v4)

Gradius

PS: Guess? Come'n ppl!

[Gradius]

Originally posted by betablockers
I will take a guess at 1k for the resistors and 0.1uF for the cap.


Is/will the magic3 still be running at 50mhz or has it been increased to 100mhz for a 10ns instruction cycle.

Yes, is just 50 MHz, now and forever.

Gradius

[Robot]

what program can we load .dis files up and play around with the code?

[MacDennis]

Originally posted by Robot
what program can we load .dis files up and play around with the code?
It's a special format which only Notepad can handle.

Grtz,
Dennis

[Robot]

i found wordpad to be better , notepad is shitty for it

[Robot]

the final value for the orange coloured resistor is?

[murcielago]

has anybody decompile the xilinx jed files ?
i guess with the proper information about the bios patch that resides in the xilinx code, plus the biospatch that Lacyg gave us and the already disasm info from the scenix we can make our own program , the thing i need i don't know how decompile the jed files if some one can help me let me know then we can also decompile the messiah and see how they work and put all the parts together and Voila!!!! Homebrew Magic 3 !!!!

Time has come !!!!! for the free code

[Raptor]

Originally posted by murcielago
has anybody decompile the xilinx jed files ?


you can't

easier just to dissasem magic3 - no doubt sporty or someone will post relevant info in the next few days

[Rattle]

Originally posted by Raptor
you can't

easier just to dissasem magic3 - no doubt sporty or someone will post relevant info in the next few days

You could also dump the bios with naplink and pukkos software. One dump without magic2 and one with, then you get all the info needed for the bios-patching part :)

/Rattle

[Gradius]

Originally posted by Gradius
There're just 3 resistors only, the values are:

- 2 x 33K ohms
- 1 x 153K ohms on v3 (I got 157K ohms on v4)

Gradius

PS: Guess? Come'n ppl!

Corrections, the "153k" isn't a resistor. Yep, it's a capacitor, but I dunno which is the real value, I don't wanna put apart my magic2.

Gradius

[EnTiTy]

i would go for 20pf looking at the data sheet its what ubicom recommend as the ideal value to suppress noise.
EnTiTy

[Gradius]

Well, right now, magic2 is really dead, with magic3 code around...

Gradius

[EnTiTy]

yep things are looking that way gradius.
EnTiTy

[sapitoloco]

I have the magic 3 code and is rev.16 and also i have a question??? Can i burn the code to a magic2 v3 chip? red pcb?
Thanks:)